3/15/2010 1:35:46 PM
Even though this group has a point about Margaret Sanger having views quite similer to that of the Nazis, they act as though this is still abortion's primary objective in American society today.
Because of this I am still going to have to call Godwin on this one.
3/15/2010 1:44:49 PM
3/15/2010 1:44:55 PM
Typical pro-life rhetoric.
So it's wrong for planned parenthood to "dehumanize" holocaust victims, but it's okay for these people to dehumanize planned parenthood by calling them nazis.
Your hyperbole just drives people away from your cause.
3/15/2010 1:45:21 PM
@ Rumpshaker Slim
Uh, weren't nazis human? I mean, sure, they were utter dicks, but that doesn't make them any less human.
3/15/2010 1:57:19 PM
I get a kick out of "Klan Parenthood," hee hee! Abortion = murder, therefore they can make a fun game to see who can mount the most prodigious and spectacular heights of argumentum ad holocaustum.
3/15/2010 1:59:49 PM
This whole "abortion = holocaust" argument is nothing more than one huge Godwin no matter how many times I see it.
And I'm pretty sure Planned Parenthood doesn't run any abortion clinics, let alone "death camps."
3/15/2010 2:06:28 PM
First off, citation needed.
Second, who the hell ever said teh holocaust was legel?!
3/15/2010 2:09:45 PM
The murdered Jews were people, not microscopic cells without brains or nervous systems. Totally invalid comparison.
3/15/2010 2:19:15 PM
If, and it's a huge if, every zygote is a life and God personally creates every one of these "lives" and he also spontaneously aborts somewhere between a third and a half of these "lives", usually before anyone knows there is a "life" to abort; isn't God directly responsible for countless billions of murders of "innocent lives"?
Shit! That doesn't even include all the actual lives, many of them children and pregnant women, that He is credited with killing via disease and natural disasters to this day. And? That doesn't include the multitudes He killed according to the Buybull.
Then the fundies want everyone to worship this vile, murderous, monster? I think I'll pass and continue treating others generously and hope it's reciprocated while never turning my back on His silly, stupid, slaves.
3/15/2010 3:03:34 PM
Die. Just fucking DIE.
3/15/2010 3:07:51 PM
Other than the massive difference AND the fact that abortion isn't an attempt at systematic genocide.
Also, Margaret Sanger was NOT a racist. The quote that people use to say that she is a racist was part of something that she was saying about how people working for reproductive freedom need to be careful what they say so that people don't take things out of context to make them look like racists. Oh the irony.
3/15/2010 3:52:33 PM
Well, let's see how abortion stacks up on the holocaust scale:
Systematic attempt to wipe out a race of people? Nope.
Living, breathing, fully functional human beings put to ghastly, painful death? Nope.
Victims branded as evil vermin to be exterminated? Nope.
Yes, eerie similarity there. Like a bird flying through the air in much the same way that bricks don't.
3/15/2010 4:47:51 PM
There's a huge difference. Namely that the Holocaust was done in hatred of people who didn't fit Hitler's master race. Abortions are generally done out of emergencies and desperation.
3/15/2010 5:50:00 PM
3/15/2010 5:55:24 PM
If one movement leader's views are automatically inherent in the whole movement, we're going to have a field day with the pro-life movement.
3/15/2010 6:08:26 PM
And not only that, but also blah blah blah blah.
3/15/2010 6:17:44 PM
You idiots would have a lot more stock if you didn't also object to proper sex education and widespread distribution of birth control to those unable to afford it.
Instead you come across as religious fanatics who figure sex is strictly for procreation and all ejaculations result in gifts from god.
3/15/2010 7:09:56 PM
Nobody has abortion as a goal, it's something we realize is a necessity in some situations. And even in the minority of cases where it's used as a form of birth control (rather than being used to save the mother's life or used after a rape), I'd rather it be done in a clinic in sterile conditions than with a coat hanger.
Not only are abortions performed before neurons form (and thus it's not a human being you're killing under any stretch of the definition) but also if the mother is willing to get an abortion as a form of birth control, the eventual child would have a terrible life being raised by a parent that doesn't want it; if it doesn't end up in the dumpster as a baby. You see, pro-life advocates don't have abortion as a goal but we understand that the world is not black and white and sometimes you have to make difficult choices.
3/15/2010 8:06:56 PM
Calling the Holocaust a legal act is a bit of a stretch, don't you think?
3/15/2010 8:35:01 PM
That whole site is pretty much this idiotic. The only difficulty in submitting a quote from there was just determining which one to pick. And I didn't even check the whole place; there's probably worse.
Do these morons seriously think this will win any converts to their cause?
3/15/2010 9:08:22 PM
GloriaBy comparing Germany's Nazi holocaust and America's abortion holocaust you'll see there is practically no difference between the mindset of holocaust then and now.
“If only one country, for whatever reason, tolerates a Jewish family in it, that family will become the germ center for fresh sedition.”
"He disappeared after the "I'm pregnant" discussion. All he wanted was to have sex with a teenage girl and I believed every lie that he told me. How could I have been so stupid? There was no way I was going to tell my parents... I was in the Midwest with about enough extra cash to buy a candy bar."
Yes, I can see they're exactly the same.
"But those who side with the pro-choice crowd may be shocked by the racial slurs and elitist ideals of Planned Parenthood's celebrated founder, Margaret Sanger."
Believe it or not, even people with repulsive I don't know Margaret Sanger, and as such can't comment upon her racism or lack thereof, but I'm not clear on what this has to do with the topic at hand. Do you have evidence that Planned Parenthood or abortion is somehow inherently racist, or are you just assuming guilt by association and hoping people fall for it? (I'm guessing the latter.)
Nope. Under the government that controlled the area at the time it was perfectly legal. I've always thought the argument that "it can't be murder because it's legal" was stupid, because it makes the law a self justifying entity: the law says X, therefor the law should continue to say X. It's idiotic.
3/15/2010 9:38:00 PM
Typical fundie rhetoric, really. Nothing new here.
3/15/2010 9:49:23 PM
You've never seen war, let alone the Holocaust so you make up a non - existent tragedy to weep over in your comfortable suburban home. Pathetic!
3/15/2010 10:25:24 PM
Face palm with a side f head desk.
3/15/2010 10:50:24 PM