H.R. 1283 is being pushed by gay activists and their gay allies in Congress. The bill is misnamed the “Military Readiness Enhancement Act” – but it should be called the “Legalization of Sodomy on the Battlefield and Barracks Act” because that’s really what it is.
Incredibly, this bill will add “sexual orientation” as a protected minority within the military, and this will include “actual or perceived” heterosexuality, homosexuality or bisexuality.
The legislation leaves out “transgender” – which is a term that describes cross-dressers, gay drag queens, transsexuals and she-males (individuals who go through half of a sex change operation).
I suspect the omission of transgender is deliberate – because it might be a difficult sell to Congress to pass a law that permits open cross-dressers, drag queens or she-males to serve. A man with female breasts and male sex organs probably would cause a stir in the barracks and might also encounter disapproval from his barracks buddies.
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Why not the "B attlefield U tilization of T ransvestites, T ransexuals, S odomites and E nlisted of C onfused S exuality" Act?
-- David B. (Where the f*** did my name go?)
So you want to change the name of a bill that by and large accurately describes what the bill does, while not complaining about laws like:
The Clear Skies Act, which reduces regulations on factory emissions into the atmosphere
The Leave No Child Behind Act, which creates a new category of undereducated children called "pushouts," where the kids are essentially encouraged to drop out by making things too difficult on them otherwise
The USA PATRIOT Act (Yes, I know it's an acronym for Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism). It is neither a patriotic law, as it guts the constitution, and the tools provided by the law have been anything but appropriate...
It's more likely that transgendered people, due to needing hormone treatments, would likely fail the medical to get into an armed force. So that would be moot.
Cross dressing and drag queen... Aren't they the same thing? (correct me if I'm wrong). Either way, it seems unlikely that anyone would want to cross dress in uniform. So moot again.
With leaves protection for sexual orientation. As it should be. It doesn't mean you have to go gay. Just that you cannot use that to discriminate. And if you do, there are rules that can bring those people to task for it.
Now grow up.
"H.R. 1283 is being pushed by gay activists and their gay allies in Congress. The bill is misnamed the “Military Readiness Enhancement Act” but it should be called the “Legalization of Sodomy on the Battlefield and Barracks Act” because that’s really what it is."
Do you guys get your hyperbole at bulk discount rates or something?
"Incredibly, this bill will add “sexual orientation” as a protected minority within the military, and this will include “actual or perceived” heterosexuality, homosexuality or bisexuality."
I'm not seeing the problem here.
"The legislation leaves out “transgender” which is a term that describes cross-dressers, gay drag queens, transsexuals and she-males (individuals who go through half of a sex change operation)."
One step at a time, I suppose.
"I suspect the omission of transgender is deliberate because it might be a difficult sell to Congress to pass a law that permits open cross-dressers, drag queens or she-males to serve. A man with female breasts and male sex organs probably would cause a stir in the barracks and might also encounter disapproval from his barracks buddies."
Probably. What exactly does this have to do with your opening statement?
"Incredibly, this bill will add “sexual orientation” as a protected minority within the military"
Yeah, cause no one actually persecutes on the idea of sexual orientation, do they TVC?
It's obvious that Andrea doesn't know what she is talking about. Seriously, complaining about cross-dressers and drag queens on the battlefield? Some lessons, sweetie:
Cross-dressers are (usually heterosexual) people who feel more comfortable in the clothes traditionally worn by the opposite sex. What do you think they'll be wearing in combat? Battle fatigues just like anyone else. It's not like there's any severe sexual dimorphism in soldiers' uniforms. Or do you think female soldiers wear pantyhose and heels into battle?
Drag queens are (usually gay) men who dress up as women for the purpose of entertainment and celebration of gay culture. They identify as men. In normal day-to-day life, they dress as men. Guess what they'll be wearing in combat? Men's clothes.
In other words, it makes no sense to talk about something like "open drag queens" serving in the army. As far as the army is concerned, they'll just be gay.
Also, obligatory:
The First Battalion Transvestite Brigade: Airborne Wing!
I thought I'd email that site to ask this harpie how it is that US military can work with its gay-friendly NATO allies, with their openly gay soldiers.
Interestingly enough, the only contact the grasping bitch wants is in the form of financial donations....
Dude you forgot drag kings. Also, you don't have to be gay to be a drag queen, or king.
Besides, do women in the military go around in high heels and skirts on the battlefield? No. They wear those camouflage outfits (can you tell I'm not in the military? sheesh). I think a woman who has only had half of her operation done "she male" as you would call her, would be more comfortable in the women's barracks so the men need not worry about feeling icky for gawping at her boobs.
wtf is "half" of a sex change operation? any moron could tell you that a mtf transsexual grows breasts HERSELF using HORMONES.
my friends don't want to be in the military anyway. who would want to serve in the military in a country where they don't have rights?
The legislation leaves out “transgender” which is a term that describes cross-dressers, gay drag queens, transsexuals and she-males (individuals who go through half of a sex change operation).
Cross-dressers and drag queens didn't have ANY sex change operation, period. That's kind of the point. Otherwise they'd be transsexuals. And hermaphrodites are usually born that way. I don't know of any person that has half of a sex change operation then says "Meh, fuck it" or purposely wants to be in between.
A man with female breasts and male sex organs probably would cause a stir in the barracks
Have you ever been to a beach? There are tons of men that look like they should be wearing a bra.
"I suspect the omission of transgender is deliberate because it might be a difficult sell to Congress to pass a law that permits open cross-dressers, drag queens or she-males to serve."
Or maybe it's because transgender is not a sexual orientation.
I love how these people try to claim stuff like this. You know a man and a woman would get in trouble for having sex on duty right? So what makes a man and a man any different? Just because they can admit their gay doesn't mean they are going to start fucking each other in front of people.
BTW, is this woman part of the Lafferty family that belong to the fundamentalist Mormons?
And we all know how keeping male and female soldiers in separate barracks keeps ANYONE from ever having sex.
I think we should keep each and every soldier alone in a single cell, to prevent two lesbians or two gay guys from getting frisky after lights out.
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but...isn't it kind of hard to cross-dress when male and female attire look pretty much the same?
I think cross-dressing is a moot point here.
Yeah right, in the middle of fighting, the first thing on any soldiers mind is sex... It's all about the butt sex with you fundies, isn't it?
There are already gays and lesbians in the military. There have always been gays in the military, but now they don't have to worry about persecution or prosecution for being gay.
Open cross-dressers & drag queens? Wearing what uniform? You don't even get to decide what haircut you'll have.
Besides, Clinger from MASH was a nice guy.
"A man with female breasts and male sex organs probably would cause a stir in the barracks and might also encounter disapproval from his barracks buddies."
Fuck that!
I'd be all like, "Miller, lemme see them titties again! Woo!"
This is a sliding slope people! If we let this carry on pretty soon things will get grizzly!
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Its Voytek! The bear soldier!
If we let bears in the army, then eventually we will have to let bears in the army.
the US has troops all over the world. we are (still) involved in a 10-year military operation in Iraq. unless you want to bring back the draft, stop ridiculing people who don't fit into your narrow dichotomous view of sex.
all volunteers --dickless or not-- should be proud to serve our country. in my opinion, there are too many dicks on the dancefloor already
the US has troops all over the world. we are (still) involved in a 10-year military operation in Iraq. unless you want to bring back the draft, stop ridiculing people who don't fit into your narrow dichotomous view of sex.
all volunteers --dickless or not-- should be proud to serve our country. in my opinion, there are too many dicks on the dancefloor already
@FMG
That's pretty small for a grizzly bear, don't you think?
Besides, if the other side in a war had bear soldiers, I sure as hell wouldn't stick around.
I see your point about the transvestites.
A major part of military combat is the advantage of surprise. Just imagine how surprised the enemy would be if a bunch of cross-dressers come charging at them!
(Hat-tip to Eddie Izzard, the transevestite comedian. Do check him out.)
(I meant 'Check out his work. He's a transvesite, not a homosexual.)
Derr@me, Saccharissa has already provided the link.
hmm, ancient Greek armies didn't suffer one bit, turkish janissaries didn't, either, and a lot of celebrations of soldiers and military life are quite homoerotic in tone (see Top Gun, or fascist art).
Cross-dressing, in the military? Whatever for? Aren't men's and women's military clothing rather similar?
Sodomy ON the Barracks? It should only be legal to have sodomy on the roof, or what?
How many people join the military in the middle of a sex change? I thought a sex change was pretty tough in it self, you don't want to mix in battle-training as well.
You know, more than just gay people think that they deserve the same human rights as the rest of us.
Whenever I hear about how gay men, and especially drag queens, would obviously not be able to fight well enough, I always think of two things...
1) Dude, are there no straight people who are aware of the "gym queen" phenomenon?
2) The father of a friend of mine was a Marine back in the day. Once, when their unit was in San Francisco waiting to ship out, one of the guy's teammates decided to head out for a little bit of recreational gay-bashing. This unnamed Marine ended up getting the living shit beaten out of him by an angry drag queen.
So no, I don't think that including more gay men -- drag queens or otherwise -- would imply reducing combat readiness.
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