Personally, I don't think guns will be banned outright any time soon. However, if healthcare reform passes, another stimulus bill goes through....than I would probably amend my prediction since at that point, the administration certainly would be able to throw its power around even more.
Prior to guns being banned, I think Obama is going to take a more sneaky approach. For example, making ammunition extremely difficult to get, limiting the amount of ammunition one can purchase, raising prices to unattainable levels....that kind of thing.
Things are changing very quickly and it won't take much to ignite the fuse so to speak.
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Where the hell is all of this "he's going to ban guns!!!" bullshit comming from anyway?
EDIT: @Rumpshaker Slim. Well the idea of the gun lobbyists driving up gun and ammo sales by spreading rumors does sound kind of like a conspiracy theory, it's a lot more believable than "zomg! teh lie-beral brownshirts r gonna take mah guns!!!!!!1!!". (second edit) @Rumpshaker Slim. Sorry, I think I was a little hasty in making my response.
Ummm...we have public healthcare up here. We also have mandatory gun registration. Guess what? We have more guns per capita than you, but the major difference is that most of them are hunting rifles. They're meant for hunting animals or just killing time at a shooting range. There's no way in hell you can convince me that owning a handgun is for any real purpose other than shooting a human being, whether it be for aggressive purposes or in defense (in which case you can defend your home and family without a gun).
@Smilodon
Everytime a liberal rises to prominence the right wing gun nuts start screaming about the 2nd amendment. I don't recall Obama saying anything about gun control during the 2008 campaign, but after he won gun and ammo sales went through the roof.
It's almost like gun companies and the NRA start these rumors to drive sales. It's like some kind of conspiricy.(cue ominous music)
@Smilodon
Calm down dude. I thought that sounded sarcastic enough to imply thats exactly how these rumors get started. It's also a good way to rally the right wingers. "Obama wants your guns!"
How?
How the hell does the government having a more active hand in health insurance lead to your guns being taken away? It's not like some weird, amorphous blob that gets stronger with each sector it devours. It's a bunch of institutions and laws that perform functions based nominally on the will of the people/what's convenient for the senators.
Don't you see? The liberals want to take away your guns and everyone's rights so they elect a commie liberal facist Muslim non-US born secret terrorist to give us all heathcare, and while they're doing that they're going to say we can't afford to heal everyone's gunshot wounds so we'll just get rid of all the guns! Just like they did with tobacco! Then Obama will banish elections and make himself dictator for life, just like Clinton did was supposed to do. Then next thing you know we'll have UN troops patrolling our streets and will be under one-world government. Then it's zomg! The second coming of Jesus and the poxyclipse!
Banning guns in the USA would be a pretty dumb move, mainly because the criminals would still get their guns like they get their drugs.
I am pretty sure if there are no major shootouts in a while, his government might even make the current gun laws a bit looser.
@#1136221: Don't forget collectors who want to own a little piece of history. You'd be amazed how interesting old military surplus stuff can be.
@1136403
which most people would have no problem with, as long as they dont keep the thing loaded. For anyone that would complain about not being able to shoot their old timey guns, I would contend that firing their gun would potentialy give it damage that would reduce its value.
Heck, I have no problem with SAFE gun ownership, it is just that many people that buy guns probably dont get more than basic levels of instruction with them.
George Bush is the one who passed the stimulus bill, not Obama.
Bush is also the one who actually did take away your constitutional rights, with the Patriot Act, among other things.
Why is it that when a Republican walks all over the constitution, it's cool, but a Democrat who doesn't gets accused of it anyway?
Oh, right.....FOX News. I forgot.
Yeah, after all, with more people getting health care and not losing their homes, you and your buddies are probably going to need to shoot more people. Obama will be coming for your guns for sure.
Let's take a look at the Second Amendment of the Constitution ourselves, shall we?
"A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. "
Notice that it is referring to the right of a "well-regulated militia
Either way, Obama alone does not have the power to take away your precious firearms--the U.S. is not a one-man dictatorship. Even if Mr. Obama could do that, he wouldn't; he knows you'd throw such an epic hissy fit that it would make racist teabaggers and unhinged neo-secessionists look like reasoned and well-informed people.
However, if our President did somehow manage to ban you from having guns, I'd certainly sleep better regardless.
So he's been president awhile now. Have any of those things happened?
@shykid-- "well-regulated militia" doesn't refer to the armed forces. Rather, it refers to the states' own militias. It's explicitly not the federal military, and the founders did not believe that the federal government would ever have the power to raise an army that could defeat the state militias. They considered this a good thing. Some of this heritage can be seen in the National Guard, but barely. Actually, there should have been quite an ordeal when we started sending the National Guard overseas to wars, but the idea that the US should look more like the EU than America is long gone.
It's also notable that the drafts of the 2nd Amendment are obvious in intention. The militias were meant to be an organized but armed populace in the state. There's actually quite a bit of evidence to suggest that the writers on the Constitution wanted every *cough land-owning white man* to have a gun. But also that they were supposed to be more like a neighborhood watch, not simply individuals with storehouses of guns.
At the time, the idea that there could ever be a time when you wouldn't NEED a gun was pretty unthinkable, so arguments that the 2nd amendment was only about the government itself are ill-informed at best.
"the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
Note that the constitution guarantees your right to arms , it says squat about any right to own ammunition .
"Prior to guns being banned, I think Obama is going to take a more sneaky approach. For example, making ammunition extremely difficult to get, limiting the amount of ammunition one can purchase, raising prices to unattainable levels....that kind of thing."
This was (and still is to an extent) happening because retards like you buying tens of thousands of rounds that you will never use, for weapons you are not qualified to handle.
Cowardly hysterical idiots like yourself are why it costs a fucking fortune to spend any amount of time at the range.
I guess it did have the advantage of sane people having to learn to reload their own ammo.
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