It's interesting that antipsychotic medication was mentioned. To date, multiple personality disorder has frustrated all attempts at pharmacological or psychiatric amelioration of symptoms. However, it does respond to exorcism when it has been tried, ridiculous though that may sound. That alone should give some pause. Unlike most or perhaps all of those writing here, I have four degrees in the sciences (bio, geo, 2x engr) and am qualified for 22 science and technical specialties. (And have studied others like astrophysics since I was a pre-teen). Despite being literal-minded, I believe. Why? Because it fits the facts. The logic and order of the system God create cannot be ignored.
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You mean, Dissociative identity disorder, perhaps. Maybe you should get a degree in medicine, preferably psychiatry.
Just because you passed those classes in high school does not mean you have a degree in them. Even if by some slim chance you do, the second you mentioned exorcism, you lost allllll credibility.
If you are a poe, good job, sir. I'd recommend more mention of jesus next time. Gets 'em hook, line, and sinker.
Kent Hovind also has a number of degrees. So far, I am not impressed. Where were your degrees from? And how about some citation on exorcism being effective for psychiatric dysfuntions? If you can prove it actually works, James Randi has a million dollars waiting for you.
But the part about the "logic and order of the system Lord Shiva created cannot be ignored". I concur. So why are you not Hindu? What in your logic and order makes you think it was the gawd of the wholly babble? Just looking at the fact that we don't have a flat earth (as strongly inferred in the babble) should be logic enough to tell you that jeebus aint the proper gawd.
However, it does respond to exorcism when it has been tried, ridiculous though that may sound.
Yes, it does sound ridiculous. Also, a big, fat [citation needed] here.
Unlike most or perhaps all of those writing here, I have four degrees in the sciences (bio, geo, 2x engr) and am qualified for 22 science and technical specialties. (And have studied others like astrophysics since I was a pre-teen).
Argument from Authority Fallacy. Einstein thought the universe was in a steady state and not expanding. Also, I notice Psychology is nowhere in your list of degrees.
The logic and order of the system God create cannot be ignored.
Really? Because I think the complete lack of both of those in fundie posts cannot be ignored.
If I may be so bold as to inquire; just how many boxtops did you have to send in for those 'degrees'?
Furthermore, in light of these assertions, what are your sources and can you provide firsthand proof, or some sort of verifiable citations perhaps?
Or is this is it more like the secondhand, non-verifiable hearsay and innuendo that the christian mythologists promulgate as holy writ.
First of all, engineering isn't technically science.
Second, everything else that's horribly wrong with what you're saying.
I doubt your degrees. Real scientists are allowed to have their beliefs, true, but they tend not to apply religion whenever they come across a gap in scientific knowledge. Also, I don't see a "Dr." in front of your name and any scientist suggesting that any religious belief is fact seriously risks losing their reputation and their career.
I doubt you have any degrees and any qualifications for anything other then burger-flipping.
It's called DID now, and they don't use anti-psychotics to treat it as far as I know.
Mr Hunt, I call BS on your degrees.
4 degrees in sciences of Biology, Geogeology and 2 seperate engeneering degrees? I can believe that, but when you claim you studied astrophysics since you were pre-teen, thats when the BS meter goes off the chart.
Given the precedence for people with no real education to foolishly blow thier own horn, not to mention not even bothering to have a degree in the field of discusion, leads me to conclude that you are a liar.
You have a degree in biology and a degree in geology.
And yet you somehow think that a deity was behind it all.
Go fuck yourself and your diploma mill.
You know, the last I'd heard of it, there was serious debate as to whether Dissociative Identity/"multiple personality" disorder even existed as its own class of condition. I have to assume that would put a crimp in "fixing" it.
Also: what do biology, geology, engineering, and more engineering have in common? They're not psychology, which would seem a tad more relevant to the situation.
Ah. Dude claims to be an engineer, and then claims to be an authority on ontology and theology on the basis of that status.
Yeah, let's just leave it at this: engineers are vastly over-represented in the ranks of suicide bombers.
"However, it does respond to exorcism when it has been tried, ridiculous though that may sound. That alone should give some pause."
Apparently it didn't give you any pause.
You're literal-minded, but you beleive that MPD is caused by demons? Suuuure.
And your mention of your degrees is nothing more than argument from authority.
I used to fill out the local paper's crossword puzzle with an ink pen, therefore I'm right and you're wrong.
"(And have studied others like astrophysics since I was a pre-teen)."
Translation: I watched a lot of Star Trek back then.
I once shared a hospital room with a gentleman who, due to having surgery, was unable to take his anti-psychotic medication. He went from a warm, friendly, intelligent conversationalist to a froth-mouthed madman who made animal noises. After a couple days, he was able to resume his anti-psychotic medication and, once again, became friendly and clever. Mr. Hunt is a hateful, ignorant, freak who has little grasp of, or experience with, reality.
"However, it does respond to exorcism when it has been tried, ridiculous though that may sound."
Empirical proof from a non-biased source, please.
"I have four degrees in the sciences (bio, geo, 2x engr)"
None of those are relevant to DID. Mental disorders fall under the realm of psychology, and exorcisms under the realm of theology. You have degrees in neither field, therefore I am more likely to listen to other people who do.
And frankly, it's scary that someone this willfully ignorant is an engineer.
I had a rare disease once, it was called Bullshititis. It could only be cured by watching marathons of first generation Pokemon episodes for nine hours straight. I know, crazy right? But I have a degree in everything, so...
Wait, where are you going? I'm credible!
Considering the fact that it is widely believed among the sciendific community that Dissociative Idendity Disorder does not actually exist and that the symptoms are psychosomatic, it makes perfect sense that an exorcism would create a placebo effect that would eliminate the symptoms. Someone getting better because they think that something will cure them does not prove that the treatement actually works.
I had a girlfriend who was most definitly DID. It's so rare and easily dismissed because it takes a very horrible life of abuse to cause it. After years of much love and acceptance she was able to overcome it and now lives life as an integrated whole. It is very rare, and sounds too far fetched, but believe me, it does exist.
This is just another example of 'all mental illnesses are caused by demons', or 'a lack of spirituality on your part',or 'you are a spiritual failure'...
I'm quite confident that a large portion of the people whom Jesus cast demons out of were in truth actually just mentally ill. One such story of Jesus' healing uses the word Epilepsy by name.
Blaming the victim and evoking and exorcising demons as causes for mental illness is very stupid and dangerous to the sufferer. Besides, what kind of training gives one the right to be called a 'demonologist' or a 'psychologist'? It's all just superstition, and then blame the victim if it doesn't work!
Ever hear of placebo, Billy? Things work because the subject believes they are going to work.
Where is your evidence that it's Bible God who created the system, and not Brahman, Shiva, Zeus, or Odin?
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