"You could show me the "bones" of Christ, and 'prove' to me that he was only human, and I wouldn't believe you.? You can't shake this faith with all of your "proof" no matter what you do."
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Oh I believe you. Where we disagree is on whether that is a good thing.
If your beliefs cannot be changed by any evidence, i.e. are not open to reason, then they are not rational. You have not arrived at your beliefs by any process of thought (otherwise one or more of the steps of that process could be disproved and your conclusion rendered invalid), you have simply adopted a position and refused to consider changing it one iota. You have declared your unconsidered opinion 'infallible' and left it at that, rejecting all and sundry that might show you your error.
That isn't faith, that is pride.
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I like the STAR TREK episode "The Return of the Archons". I think it's a good picture of what religion has done to Jesus. This quote reminds me of it, but it also helps that I watched it last night.
It's cool. Spock wears a cape!
Jesus: I'm not the Messiah!
VolParagorn: I say you are Lord, and I should know, I've followed a few!
Is that first sentence a question or a statement? Just curious.
I bet if we even got a time machine somehow and took VolParagom back to see his buddy Jesus, he'd just yell, "LIES AND TRICKERY!"
Why the random question mark?
And why does Jesus need to be more than a man that had some very good ideas? Oh, right...that'd eliminate Christianity...
Somehow I believe that. If the bible specifically mentioned that the earth is flat in no uncertain terms, I know you'd believe it unquestioningly and use any ad hoc argument you could think of to try to disprove the round earth theory. The problem is in thinking that total blind faith is a good thing.
"You could show me the "bones" of Christ"
Why haven't you or any of your fundie ilk? As the old adage goes, proof or it didn't happen.
Ah, but that 'resurrection' is a very handy cop-out for religion as a whole, isn't it?
If you can't show any physical evidence for the existence of Jesus, then he never existed. 'Faith'? Bollocks.
I have no reason to believe that any being on this planet that ever opened its yap and uttered a sentence was anything more or less than a human being. The burden of proof is yours, buddy. We don't claim that a supreme being had sex with a woman, an act equivalent to bestiality, so she could give birth to himself, so he could sacrifice himself to himself (but not really stay dead so big deal) to circumvent a law that he himself had made.
As a sane person, the bones of Christ might convince me that such a person actually existed. It's always struck me as suspicious that the only source that asserts the physical existence of a person most often called Jesus of Nazareth is the Buybull. For those who are unfamiliar with the book in question, it's full of contradictions and physical impossibilities.
You could show me the "bones" of Christ
There is little, if any, evidence that the biblical jesus ever existed in the first place.
and 'prove' to me that he was only human, and I wouldn't believe you.?
I have no interest in "proving" anything to you. I am content to let you wallow in your own ignorance.
You can't shake this faith with all of your "proof" no matter what you do."
That's not faith, that's just plain arrogance. You are so certain that you, and you alone, have all the facts that you are unwilling to concede your opinions in the face of contrary evidence. That's hubris, not "faith" it's willful ignorance and intellectual dishonesty and something only a fool would be proud of.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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