if "evo" & "BB" are so scientific why does it take people like you so many words to try and convince people of it? Seems to me if something were so true. factual or scientific it wouldn't take so many words to explain yourself.
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It's called setting up a proper argument. Especially if for whatever reason the topic is controversial, people expect you to make a case for your position, and that requires evidence. It just so happens that we have evidence from a LOT of fields to present, which, unfortunately for you, requires a lot of words to explain properly.
If the Bible is so true, why does it go on for so long, contradict itself so often, and require a degree in theology to "interpret correctly"? Seems to me that if something were so true and so necessary for salvation, it could be set forth on a 3x5 card.
Because they're based on facts, lots and lots of facts.
In fact the basic theories themselves are quite simple.
Evolution: Where there is heritability, variability and selection there will be evolution.
Big Bang: The universe expanded from an incredibly hot and dense state some 13.5 billion years ago.
While succinct, both statements lack the necessary level of detail to be useful. Similarly "meet me at the park" is to the point, but without the additional information of who "me" is, when you should meet and which "park" you should meet at, it is of no use.
Really ? Explain the Bible. No short synopsis or "word of God" subtitling. Explain it
And get this into you
Evolution; change over time
Big Bang; Expansion of matter and energy
It's not like you accept the simpler concepts either, the proof of it's just harder for you to accept, mainly because there IS proof
Thousands of science students the world over wish it didn't take many words to explain scientific findings - it'd reduce their reading workload dramatically. The fact is, if you start reducing science down to the lowest common denominator kind of explanations, you lose the important bits - like the how and why.
Astronomer and author Clifford Stoll told the story of his PhD oral exam in astrophysics. The examiners asked him only one question: "why is the sky blue?" Each time he answered, they said "be more specific". He ended up speaking for hours, covering pretty much the entire of quantum physics. Few things have a simple explanation - even "why is the sky blue?" - something we didn't really have a complete answer to until the 1960's.
That's why we know the simple myths in the Bible were invented by bronze age Arab goat-herders. God wouldn't have been that simple and naive.
if "evo" & "BB" are so scientific why does it take people like you so many words to try and convince people of it? Seems to me if something were so true. factual or scientific it wouldn't take so many words to explain yourself.
Translation: me not got teh smertz tu unnerstand dem big werdz, pleez to dum it doowwn fer mee.
Next time neoverse, just admit to yourself that its all above your head and simply type tl;dr. That way, no one needs to know that you get confused by any word longer than six letters, any sentence longer than ten words, and any paragraph over five sentences.
Once again, we see the evidence of the 'Dunning-Kruger effect'.
Yet another second grade intelligence lost to the world.
Seems to me if something were so true. factual or scientific it wouldn't take so many words to explain yourself.
Says the man with the 1,000+ page Bible....
It's BECAUSE they're scientific that the explanation is so long. Science is VERY rigorous and that means that it tries to get as full of an understanding as possible and have the explanation be as specific as possible. Now, it can be dumbed down, say, for a TV show or a grade school textbook but in the process you inevitably lose large chunks of important information. To get a full understanding you need a less watered-down version and that requires a lot of time, a lot of effort, and yes, a lot of words.
> if "evo" & "BB" are so scientific why does it take people like you so many words to try and convince people of it?
Because no matter how simple people make the explanations, you refuse to believe it? Or, if you're given a more comprehensive explanation, you still refuse to believe it?
Seriously, evolution and big bang are not hard concepts to comprehend. I'm not a biologist or a cosmologist and I understand them. Why can't you?
Just because it takes a lot of words to explain something doesn't mean it's not true.
And anyway, it doesn't really take more then one or two short sentences to explain the basics of the ToE or the Big Bang, it's the details that take so many words.
Yes, because "Goddidit" is simple enough to explane the universe to you people. It take so many big, long scary multi-syllable words because these are complex explanations.
It's funny, these people say "where's the evidence", but when it's presented to them it's too hard for them to understand so they moan about the evidence being too complicated.
Come back when you have learned to construct sentences, OK. Some basic English grammar wouldn't hurt, either.
Correction: "If "evo" and "BB" are scientifically true, why does it take people like you so many words to try and convince people of it? Seems to me, that if something was so true, factually or scientifically, it wouldn't take so many words to explain it."
See, that wasn't so hard, was it? (I bet there are some errors still in the text, though. I don't profess to be perfect.)
It doesn't take that many words, by the way.
Evolution - species adapting to a changing environment, through mutations and natural selection.
The Big Bang - the universe is expanding and has been expanding for around 13 billion years.
See, I used less words than you used in your speech.
I'm just going to weep for humanity now.
Seriously? We are talking about the origins of all life on earth, the origin of the earth and the friggin universe itself and you expect it to be simple? Well! I admit it hardly matches 'goddidit' for simplicity but how about 'thing go boom, make rock, life like living on rock'
Scientist: We now know that the Universe
formed over 13 billion years ago, in a cataclysmic event known as the Big Bang. This is what set atoms in motion, which eventually gave rise to matter.
While evidence is lacking in some minor areas, we are fairly confidant that, with time, patience, and hard work, we will finally have all the details...
Fundy: IN THA BEGINNING, ALMIGHTY GOD CREATED
THE EARTH JUST 6,000 YEARS AGO, AND WILL DESTROY EVERY VILE SINNER WHO DOESN'T LOVE HIM! GAWD...
HAS... SPOKEN!!!!
Yes, neo, using big words and logical statements makes for longer arguments than those found in the Bronze Age. Besides, you guys sometimes use longer explanations, like when you start spouting gibberish, which you refer to as, "speaking in tongues".
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