Masturbation is specifically identified in the Bible as 'unclean'... My thinking is, it makes sense that a woman who is facing her period is 'unclean', but it is easy to think that semen from masturbation is nothing more than something like 'snot', something that can be wiped away and forgotten. But these army dudes [in Deuteronomy 23:9] weren't even allowed to reenter the camp until they became clean again. Furthermore, this is with regard to nocternal omissions... which are completely involuntarily. Why, then, could someone possibly think that masturbation, which is completely voluntary, is an exception to the rule of uncleanliness? So the next time you voluntarily discharge semen, keep in mind that, according to Old Testament law, the Lord (Yahweh), your Creator, finds it to be as filthy as the discharge of a woman's period. (Eww.)
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My thinking is, it makes sense that a woman who is facing her period is 'unclean'
A totally natural process of the body that is necessary for human reproduction is unclean? How the hell does that make sense?
Furthermore, this is with regard to nocternal omissions... which are completely involuntarily....
your Creator, finds it to be as filthy as the discharge of a woman's period. (Eww.)
Wet dreams are involuntary, so they should be excused, but a woman's period is FILTHY? What? You think we decide to bleed one a month? It's a choice? We enjoy it soooo much?
Fuck off.
And grow up.
Hmmmm - cue Dave Allen as the Pope crying out, "Stop it or you'll go blind!" (as he puts his arms out like a blind man without a cane and stumbles into the pulpit.)
Xiaoth - the bible does not mention masturbation as a sin, and while there's a lot of rubbish about women and that time of the month, particularly in Leviticus 15, it recommends sacrificing two pigeons or turtles at the end of your period of uncleanliness to atone for your sin. Sane people tend to regard this as complete bullcrap. You should too. Or at least just your festering yap-hole in public.
Furthermore, it also says you shouldn't have a sex with a (non-menstruating) woman during the day and if you do you're equally unclean.
Finally, once you're done reading Leviticus, google rainbow kisses.
So much stupidity, repression and mysogyny, so little time.
I remember reading a firsthand account of life in China sometime around 1993, and it coincided with my first period (yeah, tmi), so the following really stuck with me. One part of the book detailed an adventure in noodle making, and as I recall there were fears the noodles would collapse into noodley gunk because the owner of the basin they were made in was on her period and had used the basin to wash with. There are a million reasons why women could be seen to be unclean during their periods, but fortunately most of the world has moved on from their rural peasant beliefs.
Except for Xiaoth.
I have to wonder why God, in all his wisdom, would create my body in such a way that once a month it does something he considers filthy and disgusting. I mean, I thought he looked at creation and called it "good." He didn't say "Yeah, it's good except for that business about women on the rag. That's just nasty, what was I thinking?"
While other people, thank you ladies, have pointed out the most obvious and forbidding parts of this post, I'd also like to mention that
according to Old Testament law is right. Old Testament. Which Christians aren't supposed to follow anymore.
I thought the rule was "He who touches shall be unclean for seven days, he shall clense himsel fon the third and seventh day and then be clean" -this ofcourse was during a war, particularly Joshua's assualt on Jericho (if one looks on certain events of the bible from a military perspective)- this cleansing was used as form to keep the soldiers from becoming total nutcases as they were essentially DESTROYING ENTIRE PEOPLES.
So no it's not about any of the stuff in this stupid persons post, he doesn't even know the bible he tries to pass off as being so knowledgable about.
Wait...
Nocturnal Emissions (involuntary) ---> Hey you couldn't do anything about it.
Masturbation (voluntary) --> You wasted seed (oh noes?)
yet,
Period (involuntary) --> ORIGINAL SIN, ZOMG PAY FOR EVE!
So, not only are you rather strangely obsessed with sexuality and annoyingly literalist with a fascistic streak, but you're misogynistic. Fuck you.
My theory, what is mine, is that it's really superstitious jealousy on the part of the primitive male. In the past most people, when they bled, got weak and frequently died. Women however, not only do not die, but are sometimes stronger and more powerful during menstruation. This must have been frightening to the men, who would have found some way to denigrate the whole process in order to not feel inferior - and the easiest way to do that would be to claim that gawd decreed it unclean...
Just an idle thought.
Jehovah finds menstruation to be filthy because Eve ate the apple and so damned mankind and that's why she was cursed with a period.
Then again Adam could always have said no to eating the fruit of the tree. I guess he was the first guy to think with his cock . . .
In my house a "Nocternal Omission" is when I leave the cat out.
@ Rahab,
"And after Adam had eaten of the fruit and hath taken of himself a dump in the garden, but not upon the path, God looked down upon it and saith it was good. Though it reeketh mightily, and yea, it smelleth not so damn good, even unto the creator of dumping, and offendeth his great nose. And God declareth with a strong voice, rumbling as thunder throughout all Eden; Pee YOO!"
And the LORD spake saying, "Thou shalt not spilleth thy seed, not your own or the packet of marigolds in the garden, nor shall you giveth yourself a hand job while thinking of that girl with the big rack. It's just so EWWWW."
I think it must be terrible to go through life believing your semen is "unclean," voluntary or not. This person is sick, sick, sick...
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