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Did you guys ever consider as to why God killed these people off?

Most of these people openly insulted God, lied to Him, stole from Him or were living in a lifestyle totally contrary to how He designed us to live.

Doesn't the Bible say He is All loving? If He is all loving He'd have to also be perfectly Just, all knowing, omni-present... thats what He claims about Himself anyway.

From yalls reasoning the God of the Bible is eather lying, or doesn't exist. But i propose that Since He is perfect his judgment is also perfect. Just as water will never mix with oil, molecularly, never. But our view of perfect has been poisoned with the idea of that trait also entitling the Being with perfect/infinite toleration.

If me child says "NO" to me he is due a spanking, some for of discipline. If God, given everyone fair chance at obeying Him (like you'd expect a child to obey you with holding your hand while crossing the street for there own safety) and we say NO in His face through our actions/attitudes then why is it "unfair" for God to execute perfect judgment?

GodChaser, DwindlingInUnbelief 44 Comments [3/30/2010 3:47:59 AM]
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aaa

Genocide =/= Spanking. How hard is it to not understand this?

3/30/2010 4:03:31 AM

LDM

Someone needed to spank you for not paying attention in English class.

3/30/2010 4:11:29 AM

Diatryma

"God" as a peevish pre-schooler. Truckload of Faith-Fail. Word Salad. Headache. Uh.

3/30/2010 4:19:14 AM

JSS

Ah just like in North Korea with the great Kim Jong Il. People are given a choice to obey him or not and if they refuse they're sent to a gulag. Perfect justice he has, for torturing someone to death is a miniscule as spanking.

3/30/2010 4:43:54 AM

rw23

I think you don't understand much about oil and water.

If your god tells you not to kill, but then says to kill all the idolaters/adulterers/unbelievers, wouldn't you expect a divine spanking regardless of what you do?

3/30/2010 4:48:22 AM

Dan Onymous

"Just as water will never mix with oil, molecularly, never."

Well I'm glad we can all agree that you're wrong, so maybe you can shut up now.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn3408-oil-and-water-do-mix-after-all.html

3/30/2010 5:08:51 AM

Mister Spak

"or doesn't exist."

I notice you didn't deal with this possibility.

3/30/2010 5:31:26 AM

TGRwulf

So love me or I'll kill you? Got it.


And like others have said, genocide is NOT the same thing as spanking.

3/30/2010 6:15:22 AM

Berny

So much fail, so little time.
The god of the bible is a psychotic tyrant with anger issues. To describe that monster as all loving is to slander the concept of love. He is neither loving, nor just, and is as flawed as the men who made him up. I see no absolute morality anywhere in those fairy tales.
As to your assertion that it is right to beat a child for the mere offence of saying NO to you, don't try it around me. You'll get reported to the nearest Children's Aid organization.

3/30/2010 6:24:28 AM

dionysus

When's the last time you saw a parent kill and/or torture their child for saying "No"? If a child disobeys while crossing a street should the parent throw the child under the nearest bus?

3/30/2010 6:39:04 AM

toth

So...you'd kill your children if they said "NO" to you?

Child Protective Services is on its way.

3/30/2010 7:02:49 AM

Doubting Thomas

So, how could anyone steal from God? Did they break into heaven and steal his TV and stereo?

And if God is all loving, he would never be able to kill anyone or cause any pain or discomfort at all. Fundies never seem to grasp the concept of "all good" or "all loving."

3/30/2010 7:18:23 AM

CailinBan

Many of those killed in that tally were infants who were too young to insult, lie or choose any lifestyle.

Explain that please.

3/30/2010 8:09:34 AM

caustic gnostic

g0d sure picks some absolute 'winners' to speak for him.

3/30/2010 8:28:08 AM

Mrs. Antichrist

Godwin time.


Did you guys ever consider as to why Hitler killed these Jews off?

Most of these people openly insulted Hitler, lied to Him, stole from Him or were living in a lifestyle totally contrary to how He designed us to live.

Doesn't Mein Kampf say He is All loving? If He is all loving He'd have to also be perfectly Just, all knowing, omni-present... thats what He claims about Himself anyway.

From yalls reasoning Hitler is eather lying, or doesn't exist. But i propose that Since He is perfect his judgment is also perfect. Just as water will never mix with oil, molecularly, never. But our view of perfect has been poisoned with the idea of that trait also entitling the Being with perfect/infinite toleration.

If me child says "NO" to me he is due a spanking, some for of discipline. If Hitler, given everyone fair chance at obeying Him (like you'd expect a child to obey you with holding your hand while crossing the street for there own safety) and we say NO in His face through our actions/attitudes then why is it "unfair" for Hitler to execute perfect judgment?

3/30/2010 8:36:19 AM

John_in_Oz

A God-Chaser is like an Ambulance chaser but lower.

3/30/2010 9:04:30 AM

werewolf

No, I just expect any god who claims to be almighty, omniscient, and all that Superman stuff to exercise better judgment and better restraint than I, a lowly and sinful human being, can or would.

Otherwise, your imaginary deity can piss off!

3/30/2010 9:20:25 AM

campbunny

I don't come across "from yalls reasoning" in enough philosophical discussions.

3/30/2010 10:14:19 AM

Sasha

How odd, then, that the human idea of compassion and justice is so much better than your god's morality. Almost as if humanity has actually made some social and ethical progress while your god...has not.

3/30/2010 10:16:21 AM

Zeus Almighty

@ campbunny

"I don't come across "from yalls reasoning" in enough philosophical discussions."

And if you did, the person using such would make it a contraction and possessive, as in "ya'lls' reasoning."

3/30/2010 10:56:36 AM

JEwsus

"From yalls reasoning the God of the Bible is eather lying, or doesn't exist. But i propose that Since He is perfect his judgment is also perfect."

Sounds a lot like that crazy ontological argument to me. I wonder what's wrong with it?

3/30/2010 11:06:15 AM

I read about the afterlife

"For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God and are justified FREELY" -- Romans 3:23

You were saying?

3/30/2010 12:17:05 PM

Old Viking

Hey, calm down. We were just kidding. We think God is a peach.

3/30/2010 12:28:11 PM

GigaGuess

But this isn't like spanking a child for saying "No." This is like throwing a child out the window because his footsteps make a sound.

3/30/2010 1:00:51 PM

Creedence Leonore Gielgud

"Most of these people openly insulted God, lied to Him, stole from Him or were living in a lifestyle totally contrary to how He designed us to live."

Many of them had foreskins too, the evil fucks. God really, really hates that.

3/30/2010 1:04:09 PM
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