Quote# 71786

The human eye occupies about 1 - 4000th the area of the human body. What is the likely hood of the eye evolving on the body? Answer 4000 to 1.

What are the odds of two eyes *simultaneously* evolving on the human body? Answer, since there would be 2 the odds would be 16,000,000 to 1!

letusreason, BBC Meessageboard Religion and Ethics 125 Comments [3/30/2010 3:55:06 AM]
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Logic fail!

The odds of something developing are nothing to do with the size of the body part!

And the odds of two of them happening would not be the original odds squared - I have no idea how he got this.

In fact, since one eye takes 1/4000th of the body, two takes 1/2000th so the odds of two eyes developing are only 1/2000! Practically a sure cert.

My head hurts now ...

3/30/2010 3:58:26 AM


That's now how statistics work!!!

3/30/2010 4:01:05 AM


So bad it's not even wrong

3/30/2010 4:11:02 AM


I'm pretty sure that body mass ratio doesn't relate at all to the probability of body part evolution...

3/30/2010 4:12:49 AM


Logic doesn't work that way. I recommend hitting your head against the nearest lamp post until the doctor comes and takes you to a happy place.

3/30/2010 4:21:59 AM


Or, more relevantly, what are the odds of letusreason evolving a second brain cell?

3/30/2010 4:37:50 AM


Even IF your non-logic had any merit, simply having a huge number of creatures evolving would, inevitably, evolve eyes. And what do you know, 3 billion years of life evolving means lots and lots of living things for evolution to work with.

Or in short: you fail science hard.

3/30/2010 4:38:26 AM


Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
You're wrong, you're wrong.

3/30/2010 4:47:45 AM

Dan Onymous

Approximate volume of letusreason = 1 cubic decimeter.

Approximate volume of the Earth = 1.0832073 x 1012 km3.

Chance of letusreason learning how to use maths properly = fuck all.

3/30/2010 4:52:54 AM


Dear fundies, math is not your friend.

You could actually learn some math and science, but then you wouldn't need your bible.

3/30/2010 5:03:46 AM

Mister Spak

But wait! The human eye occupies 100% of the area of the human eye! So what is the likelyhood of the human eye evolving? 100% And since there are two eyes, the likelyhood of them evolving is 200%!!!!!!

3/30/2010 5:09:19 AM


What the hell?

3/30/2010 5:14:21 AM

Table Rock

Now do the odds for hair follicles. I like big, irrelevant numbers.

3/30/2010 5:48:01 AM


This stupid moron doesn't understand probabilities or biology.
Imagine my shock.

3/30/2010 5:57:42 AM


Math fail for jeebus?

3/30/2010 6:06:19 AM

Doubting Thomas

Isn't it cute when fundies try to use logic to prove creationism?

3/30/2010 6:08:39 AM


Actually, since symetrical development is the norm (Animal and Plants, hell, snowflakes even) One is more unlikely than two.

3/30/2010 6:30:03 AM

Big Jilm

Argument from Ignorance, Non-sequitor, and begging the question, jack ass. Three fallacies in one.

Just because something seems awesome to you doesn't lead to the conclusion that goddidit and it certainly doesn't lead to the conclusion it was Jebbus.

3/30/2010 6:32:18 AM


Epic fail!

3/30/2010 6:38:53 AM


Your mastery of statistics is amazing. It's people like you that keep casinos in business.

3/30/2010 6:55:11 AM


You fail genetics forever.

3/30/2010 7:04:41 AM

Doctor Whom


And the odds of two of them happening would not be the original odds squared - I have no idea how he got this.

letusbeunreasonable seems to think that they evolved independently of each other.

3/30/2010 7:14:57 AM

Rumpshaker Slim

So if it wern't for god we wouldn't have eyes? Or only one eye? Would we have eyes all over our heads?

3/30/2010 7:16:44 AM


If you could reason with religious people, there wouldn't be any religious people.

3/30/2010 7:31:05 AM

Ya know, I don't think the OP should be allowed to reason, if this is where it leads. Someone could get injured when their WTFometer explodes.

3/30/2010 7:34:29 AM

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