Quote# 71786

The human eye occupies about 1 - 4000th the area of the human body. What is the likely hood of the eye evolving on the body? Answer 4000 to 1.

What are the odds of two eyes *simultaneously* evolving on the human body? Answer, since there would be 2 the odds would be 16,000,000 to 1!

letusreason, BBC Meessageboard Religion and Ethics 125 Comments [3/30/2010 3:55:06 AM]
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NearlySane - "So bad it's not even wrong"


4/30/2010 9:27:17 AM


Evolution does not fucking work that way, dumbass!

4/30/2010 10:09:01 AM

David B.

"The human eye occupies about 1 - 4000th the area of the human body..."

Yes, but it's a whopping 1/7th of our primary sense organs (2 eyes, 2 ears, nose, mouth and skin), so the odds of having two develop are 1/7 * 1/7 = 1/49th. So if there were ever more than say 50 people on Earth we'd be pretty much certain to acquire them.

And that makes about as much sense as your fundtarded attempt.

(I'll tell you something, creation math may not make a lot of sense, but doggone if it isn't a whole lot of fun! ;-)

4/30/2010 11:43:48 AM

A Rodent Says

I recently watched quite a good documentary wherein the probable evolution of eyes is shown in concrete, understandable terms, and with props so that you can see for yourself how it works.
Starting with the formation of simple photo-sensitive skin cells, moving on to forming pits, then deeper recesses, then narrowing the aperture of those recesses, forming a lens over the aperture, and gradually refining those things into a modern eye.

6/11/2010 10:37:55 AM

Quantum Mechanic

What are the odds someone this stupid can find food?

6/11/2010 10:53:18 AM


even IF this logic was sound, it doesn't make a difference. yeah, the odds are 16,000,000 to 1. but nature gets 16,000,000 tries.

2/21/2011 9:50:15 PM

Allegory for Jesus

lulz. Given those numbers, those are the odds of eyes being where they currently are on the human body, like if you threw them at an eyeless person or something. Understand less.

2/21/2011 9:58:10 PM


Please don't tell me that they should be teaching creation math along with real math in the classroom.

2/22/2011 1:08:39 AM


If I knew how to post pictures, watermelon cat would be here.
Your argument makes no sense!

2/22/2011 1:40:08 AM

Quantum Mechanic

The stupid is statistically strong with this one.

7/29/2011 8:46:38 AM

My… brain… it… it… uh… hurts… My…brain… huuurrrrrrtsssss…

7/29/2011 8:54:38 AM


But it's not like body parts evolve one by one. Eyes evolved when all life was still in the ocean. Eventually life moved on land, and some of the furry creatures we call mammals evolved slowly [but all the body parts at the same time] into a hairy primate, and then into the great apes and people.

That's my understanding of it, at least.

12/6/2011 5:53:53 PM

History (or something) tells us of the cyclops, a man with one eye. It is obvious that one eye devolped first and two eyes followed as an improvement and security against eye poking with a stick.

12/8/2011 10:40:44 PM


Wow, now that is some bad math! Actually using the initial "point", two eyes occupy about 2 - 4000th the area of the human body and hence the "likely hood of the eyes evolving" is 2000 to 1.

1/28/2013 6:42:05 AM


Holy crap.
Well, we shouldn't be surprised since this is how all "arguments" like this work.
1) Claim victory, at least in your head (ALWAYS do this first!)
2) Make up a big number
3) Assert that big number actually means something
4) Pray to God
5) Attempt to ruin the US education system
6) Project your irrational faith onto others
7) Claim persecution
8) Blurt out conspiracy theories
9) Wonder why everyone thinks you're insane

1/29/2013 7:08:16 PM


I am always amused when people who cannot define evolution try to tell me how improbable it is. They always seem so proud of themselves. They're like, "Look at me! I'm using numbers! That means I'm doing science!"

Yeah, sure pal.

1/29/2013 8:34:45 PM

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and the universe I am not so sure.--Albert Einstein

1/30/2013 5:17:59 AM

Do you want to witness an "improbable" event right now in your very own home?
Take a standard deck of 52 cards, shuffle it well and spread the cards in a line. Look at them well. Assuming an ideally random shuffle, the probability of a card sequence in this exact order is...
1 in 80658175170943878571660636856403766975289505440883277824000000000000
Really. And yet despite this very low probability, you just got that sequence. Which may be mindblowing if you haven't studied statistics or combinatorics. Of course, this is because the mathematical odds of ending up with any 52 card sequence is 100%.

1/30/2013 5:20:09 AM

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and the universe I am not so sure.--Albert Einstein

1/30/2013 5:20:49 AM

Quantum Mechanic

Worst ... handle ... ever.

3/7/2013 11:58:20 AM


Likely hood? Seriously?

Based on this logic the odds against letusreason having a brain must be about 100,000,000 to 1.

3/7/2013 12:16:59 PM


The eye didn't evolve into the human body, it was developed millions of years before the first hominid stood on its hind-legs for the first time.

As two eyes enables depth perception, I'd say that it would be a very advantageous mutation which would render a large amount of offspring.

3/7/2013 1:09:25 PM

What is the likely hood(sic) of letusreason being a moron?


3/7/2013 7:09:57 PM

1+1=4 for Jeebus

3/8/2013 3:08:50 AM


Jesus occupies about a square feet. What is the likely hood of him hiding behind the sofa? Answer tomato to differential calculus.

3/8/2013 3:46:04 AM

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