Let's also not forget the Fulsom Street and Up Your Alley fairs, or any of the "Pride" parades that go on in San Francisco. None of those utterly despicable and degenerate events do the gay rights movement any favors. Seeing gay males fellate, masturbate and urinate on each other out in the open on a public street in plain view of police officers to the thumping beat of disco house does _not_ incline those of us in straight America to accept homosexuality as "normal" and "just another lifestyle". Especially when one considers that if a just as abominable heterosexual event occurred like the aforementioned ones, in full view of the public, the event would be broken up and arrests would happen.
The United States today is one of the most accepting places in the world; most of us straight people nowadays don't give a rat's ass what two adults are doing in the privacy of their own home; we just expect similar consideration from the other side. We don't care if you revel in your lifestyle, just don't force your sexuality down our throats with a plumber's friend.
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"Seeing gay males fellate, masturbate and urinate on each other out in the open on a public street in plain view of police officers to the thumping beat of disco house does _not_ incline those of us in straight America to accept homosexuality as "normal" and "just another lifestyle". "
Clearly, you have never been to a pride festival.
I also noticed you specifically said "gay males." If lesbians did this -- you'd be whacking off in a corner, wouldn't you?
Gay Pride Marches are political protest marches.
If you claim there hasn't been inappropriate behaviour including public urination or unsanctioned sex at other political protests, including teabag protests or million man marches, you're lying a retard.
We won't force our sexuality down your throat if you don't force yours down ours. Don't mention your wives, girlfriends, spouses, or children- that's just publically admitting you've had sex! Otherwise, we'll continue to agitate for equality. And if the methods we use make you uncomfortable, I truly fail to any injustice there.
" Seeing gay males fellate, masturbate and urinate on each other out in the open on a public street in plain view of police officers"
...What parade were you at? Stop fucking lying.
Well, he *is* talking about the Folsom Street Fair, which isn't quite a pride parade, but if you don't want to see leatherdaddies with their cocks out, I strongly recommend abstaining from the fair as a solution to your problem.
Let's also not forget the Fulsom Street and Up Your Alley fairs, or any of the "Pride" parades that go on in San Francisco.
I've been to Pride parades and even organized booths at Pride fairs. If anything, they're sanctimoniously PC. Strike one!
Especially when one considers that if a just as abominable heterosexual event occurred like the aforementioned ones, in full view of the public, the event would be broken up and arrests would happen.
I've been to pansexual (read: mostly straight) BDSM events, so I know you're wrong. Strike two!
The United States today is one of the most accepting places in the world; most of us straight people nowadays don't give a rat's ass what two adults are doing in the privacy of their own home; we just expect similar consideration from the other side.
We're not the ones who voted away your marriage rights. Strike three, you're out!
This isn't fundie. Like, AT ALL.
In fact, a lot of gay people feel the same way. Namely me.
@Jake: I don't think it's just the hatred of pride parades that makes it fundie. I think it's the use of them as justification for mistreating gay people, with a side of a hetero persecution complex, that makes it fundie.
And like it was previously said, if an event requires identification and a waiver, it's your own damn fault if you went in and saw something you disapprove of. Like all the kiddies who lie about their age to see nekkid boobs on dA, then see the wrong type and go crying to mum.
This sounds like it could have been written by Porno Pete LaBarbara, whose favorite pastime is attending events like Folsom Street Fair (note: not open to the public, you have to know what you're getting into) and then posting long, drooling rants about how evil and degenerate gay men are. (He also, of course, attends mixed-orientation BDSM events, but always talks about them as if they were attended only by gay men and lesbians.)
They...DON'T fellate, masturbate, or urinate on each other in the open on a public street. They might hug suggestively or dry hump a little, but it's all in good fun. They would be arrested immediately if they were doing what you say they're doing.
It sounds pretty gross to me, but what I would do to avoid it is, oh, NOT GO TO ANY GAY PRIDE EVENTS.
Sitting home, waiting for the phone to ring again?
While this shows a prudish sensibility and homophobia via strong denial of the hetero and orientation-neutral habits at Mardi Gras, Spring Break, and various yards and thoroughfares every Friday night (humping, pissing, puking), I can't see where it's Fundie.
Says the person who obviously has never been to one, because nothing like that ever happens there.
Ironically, the most blatant thing I've seen at the pride parades here are topless females (then again, that's legal in Columbus Ohio all year, so no big deal).
@ jadehawk
"The United States today is one of the most accepting places in the world;"
"no. not even close."
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Well, if by "the world" he means: The United States, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Egypt ...
The Folsom Street Fair is nothing but the fringe of a fringe in the gay "scene". Not only that, it isn't even a damn "gay pride parade". Hell, just about the only thing the two have in common is being mostly outdoor events. Get bent.
I'm rather amused by the number of photos he took of various gay acts, from multiple angles, and obviously over a long period of time. So this guy, who's supposedly offended by teh gehy stood and watched some guy smoke pole for how long just taking pics? Yeahh... Right.
"the event would be broken up and arrests would happen."
Somebody ain't ever been to Spring break, New Years or Schoolies week. (Schoolies week is an event thing that happens the week after we graduate from high school, massive party up on the gold coast and elsewhere, drinking, drugs and a lot of sex) God I love Australia, maybe not the most accepting place in the world but GOD DAMN if it ain't close.
"The United States today is one of the most accepting places in the world"
Yes, that's certainly how it seems to those of us in less tolerant, backward, secular countries. And when your christian Taliban finally takes over completely, no doubt you'll all be even more tolerant and forgiving.
"Seeing gay males fellate, masturbate and urinate on each other out in the open on a public street in plain view of police officers"
I've never been to a gay pride parade (always wanted to though) But I'm willing to bet this doesn't happen anywhere except in SPConservative's head.
"Seeing gay males fellate, masturbate and urinate on each other out in the open on a public street in plain view of police officers to the thumping beat of disco house..."
I think you went to the wrong parade. Oh, and saying things like "disco house" makes it apparent that you know nothing about music too. Trust me on that, I write this stuff for a living. =)
I have never been to a Pride festival either.
But I think I can be pretty safe in saying that people don't actually pee on each other in public at these events.
EDIT:
Actually after seeing footage of the Fulsom Fair it is pretty full-on. Honestly I think I'd be weirded out by the shenanigans there, but then unlike some people I accept that some people aren't, and that that's okay.
Clearly someone has never seen the Brazilian Carnaval.
Then again, I suppose naked women parading their glittered bodies would be okey-dorey with this person, wouldn't it?
"Especially when one considers that if a just as abominable heterosexual event occurred like the aforementioned ones, in full view of the public, the event would be broken up and arrests would happen. "
... you mean like Mardi Gras or any number of college parties, spring break events, etc.?
Whoa none of the gay pride events I've ever gone to had any of those public displays of affection (well, except for pride in New Orleans, but I doubt that was just gay pride that BJs happen on the street). What pride events have you been going to SPConservative and can I come with you next time??
Oh and on a side note I love how people like this "don't care if we revel in this lifestyle just don't force it down their throats" yet they have a problem with us wanting to get married in a private ceremony and live a private life. Go figure.
While it's true that no one, straight or gay, male or female, should be performing sex acts in public, the vast majority of gay pride events are nothing like this. And SPConservative's tone in his writing leads me to question whether or not he's really so tolerant.
"most of us straight people nowadays don't give a rat's ass what two adults are doing in the privacy of their own home"
Except those of you who do.
"just don't force your sexuality down our throats with a plumber's friend."
Don't bring your kinks into the discussion, please.
Hm. I'm all for gay rights and equality, but I'm not sure I'd like to witness something ixolite (#1142135) linked to, or find it appropriate for a public place. Granted, I'd object any sexual activity in public, not only homosexual. Not that I would burst into rage or something, but some things are better left in private, in my opinion.
Works for them, though, I guess...
You've never been to a pride festival, have you? I mean, you're describing an orgy, not a pride festival.
Those fairs are specifically BDSM and kink oriented, not necessarily or by any means exclusively gay.
The question is, how on earth did you happen to just wander in on these activities, especially given that tickets and consent forms are required?
Well, this one is the only one I've seen that is actually sensible. Granted, the poster was assuming that the extreme elements of the gay community are the norm, but still, those elements do exist.
If he were referring to those elements alone, he would be entirely correct and reasonable with this post.
The US is one of the most accepting places in the world? As if!
How come we hear so much about US companies that want to have the right to discriminate against certain customers? Have all states implemented gender-neutral marriage laws yet? Can gay couples adopt?
I bet most gay people don't give a rat's ass what two adults are doing in the privacy of their own home either, so you've already got similar consideration from the other side.
Why do you want to put gay people in house arrest? Straight people force their sexuality down people's throats all the time; gays also want to hug or kiss their loved ones in public.
"just don't force your sexuality down our throats with a plumber's friend."
'There's nothing I like better, than to suck on a Fisherman's Friend . '
-The Joan Collins Fan Club, a.k.a. Julian Clary.
...and he (along with his canine sidekick, 'Fanny the Wonder Dog') was doing that double entendre-riddled stand-up routine in the 1980 s on nationwide TV here in the UK, so you & your country are nothing special SPCuntservative.
...but I'm sure Julian would like to thank you for your warm hand upon his entrance . [/Innuendo] X3
"Disco house" made me laugh. Somebody is 30 years out of touch.
But what exactly does the Fulsom Street Fair have to do with the right of gay and lesbian couples to get married? Straights behave badly, too.
"Revel in your lifestyle" sounds like an excellent bumper sticker.
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