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It will be harder and harder as your profess your faith in Christ to live in this world.

In some Islamic nations Christians are being put to death for their faith in the Lord Jesus. Middle East terrorists are killing in the name of their god Allah. Jews and Christians to them are infidels and of no worth.

China, the world’s largest nation has become a "killing field" for Christians. The government seems to be determined to bring Christianity to the ash heap. Government authorities interrupt their church services often in China. They are arrested, tortured, and can be killed for having church.

The Jews of course have been persecuted for years. The Bible says, "All that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution." You might say, preacher, I am not being persecuted. Then according to Jesus, you are not living as godly as you should in your daily life.

Dr. Tom Walker, The Preacher's Corner 74 Comments [4/7/2010 11:05:39 AM]
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Doubting Thomas

Persecuted, persecuted, not persecuted, anyone?

Cry me a river. Christians still have considerable influence all over the world. Just because there are a few theocracies in the world where you can't practice any religion but Islam doesn't mean that Christians are suffering worldwide persecution.

And frankly, from many comments I've seen, many Christians here in the US would gladly persecute Muslims for practicing their religion.

4/7/2010 11:08:47 AM

Tyler

Christianity in China

China Christian Council

I know the internet is a tool of the devil, but at least do SOME research before releasing such a proverbial shit-storm from your mouth. Typical Christian persecution complex again....

4/7/2010 11:09:33 AM

Lucilius

"The Jews of course have been persecuted for years."

... Mostly by Christians ....

4/7/2010 11:12:18 AM

JohnTheAtheist

Kind of like you consider Muslims infidels of no worth?

Can't you see that this IS the problem? The problem is faith itself.

4/7/2010 11:13:35 AM



Good thing the Jesus is alive and well in the good Ole USA.

4/7/2010 11:23:21 AM

D

"The Jews of course have been persecuted for

Ironic how some of those persecuters were Christian (Martin Luther, Hitler, The KKK, the Spanish Inquisition, The Roman Captivity, etc).


4/7/2010 11:26:26 AM

Doctor Whom

In some Islamic nations Christians are being put to death for their faith in the Lord Jesus. Middle East terrorists are killing in the name of their god Allah. Jews and Christians to them are infidels and of no worth.

Puts religious hysteria into perspective, doesn't it?

4/7/2010 11:30:00 AM

AuraTwilight

Muslims have been persecuting Christians and Jews, Jews have been persecuting Muslims and Christians, and Christians have been persecuting Jews and Muslims. Why don't you all grow the fuck up and knock off this nonsense? If you can't be religious and not fight, then just stop it.

Seriously. Faith is the problem here. Atleast the Buddhists, Shintoists, Hindus, Jainists, and Zoroastrians can get along pretty well.

4/7/2010 11:41:38 AM

Quantum Mechanic

bullshit

4/7/2010 11:44:35 AM

D

@AuraTwilight, I think it's more like "Fundies and Idiots always seem to have the loudest voices". The people who are not persecuting others and thinking they're better than others cause of religion don't have to justify their opinions to others ;)

4/7/2010 11:44:48 AM

aaa

Oh, please. You call persecution in china bad? You should have seen the stuff that went down in Africa back in the 90s. And oh, have you ever heard of Falun gong?

4/7/2010 11:48:34 AM

solomongrundy

The Jews of course have been persecuted for years. The Bible says, "All that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution."

Dr. Tom Walker, I hate to be the one to break this to you, but Jews by definition don't accept Jesus as the Christ. That (to a large extent) is why they were historically persecuted by Christians.

4/7/2010 12:24:45 PM

Berny

One big heaping pile of bullshit and fail.

4/7/2010 12:42:04 PM

Xotan

well first of all I think we can drop the Doctor title. There is too much ignorance on display here to make it remotely valid. And the crazy use of language makes a doctorate evel less likely - read the sentence on China..." The government..." etc. Then the persecution of the Jews contradicts the proposition that all - ALL - that will live godly in Christ Jesus, etc.

It strikes me that to fulfil this nonsense about living in Christ we would be doing RR a favour to persecute them all. Can I be the first to turn the wheel on the rack and see the RRites suffer, knowing that they are taking masochistic pleasure from it?

4/7/2010 12:42:27 PM

Old Viking

Right now in Indonesia Christians and Muslims are engaged in a mutual slaughter to determine which group has the better sky daddy.

"Dr." Tee-hee.

4/7/2010 12:56:18 PM

dionysus

It will be harder and harder as your profess your faith in Christ to live in this world.

Only because it will be seen as the nonsense it is and at some point in the future it will be as embarrassing to admit to being a Christian as it is to admit to being a geocentrist nowadays.

In some Islamic nations Christians are being put to death for their faith in the Lord Jesus. Middle East terrorists are killing in the name of their god Allah. Jews and Christians to them are infidels and of no worth.

Yup. That's why theocracies suck.

China, the world’s largest nation has become a "killing field" for Christians. The government seems to be determined to bring Christianity to the ash heap. Government authorities interrupt their church services often in China. They are arrested, tortured, and can be killed for having church.

[citation needed]

The Jews of course have been persecuted for years.

Hmmmmm, I wonder who has historically persecuted Jews.

The Bible says, "All that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution."

No, it's just those that happen to live in the wrong location. Christians in the Middle East are persecuted while those in the US pretty much run the show and some of them are even looking to cause a little persecution of their own (see Dominion Theology/Christian Reconstructionism).

You might say, preacher, I am not being persecuted. Then according to Jesus, you are not living as godly as you should in your daily life.

Or, more likely, it's because you live in a free democracy where persecution is against the law.

4/7/2010 1:10:31 PM

JonnyTruant

Then please explain why there are enclaves of Jews and Coptic Christians throughout the Muslim Middle East. They are tolerated and often accepted as part of society and they live in peace with their neighbors.

Why can't you?

4/7/2010 1:14:52 PM

Brianisha

Id like to point out that christians are also killing off Muslims and Jews. cuts both ways.

4/7/2010 1:20:35 PM

El Zorro

"The Bible says, "All that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution." You might say, preacher, I am not being persecuted. Then according to Jesus, you are not living as godly as you should in your daily life."

With a view like this it's no wonder some fundies imagine themselves as persecuted; it becomes a confirmation that they're godly Christians.

4/7/2010 1:45:15 PM

noko

Apparently, if we're not trying to kill you, you're doing it wrong

4/7/2010 1:50:53 PM



Funny, then, how Fundamentalist Christians in the US are becoming bolder everyday about defaming and persecuting anyone who doesn't share their beliefs, and about shoving their beliefs down everyone else's throats through legislation and intimidation.

Fundamentalists have been persecuting scientists, Democratic politicians, women seeking control of their own bodies and parents who don't want their kids taught junk science in school "for years" as well.


4/7/2010 1:51:58 PM

TGRwulf

Christians are not perscuted. You guys are actually one of the top groups guilty OF persecuting!

4/7/2010 1:52:02 PM



However, you skip very conveniently Israel, eh?, where the authorities are persecuting Muslims and Christians alike with the blessing of you and your lookalikes.

4/7/2010 1:53:43 PM

Reverend Jeremiah

"It will be harder and harder as your profess your faith in Christ to live in this world. "

As it should be. It is past time for Christianity to go the way of the Pantheon and the Asatru. Its time for Christianity to be automatically assumed to be mythology like all of the other dead religions.

"In some Islamic nations Christians are being put to death for their faith in the Lord Jesus."

Citation needed. Last I checked all of the Muslim countries live in peace with their Christian citizens. Now try going out and saying you are an ATHEIST in those countries and learn REAL persecuation world wide..much thanks for that persecution to your fellow Christians.

"Middle East terrorists are killing in the name of their god Allah. Jews and Christians to them are infidels and of no worth."

And Christians and Jews arent doing the same thing? I suggest you open your eyes a bit wider.

"China, the world’s largest nation has become a "killing field" for Christians."

Citation needed

"The government seems to be determined to bring Christianity to the ash heap. Government authorities interrupt their church services often in China. They are arrested, tortured, and can be killed for having church."

Bold faced lie there. As long as your church is registered in China, then you are allowed freedom to practice your religion. How about spreading more lies!?

"The Jews of course have been persecuted for years."

The vast majority of the times from Christians.

"The Bible says, "All that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution." You might say, preacher, I am not being persecuted."

Of course you arent being persecuted

"Then according to Jesus, you are not living as godly as you should in your daily life."

What a suck ass cult you belong to. Just dump it and live a normal life already.

4/7/2010 1:55:01 PM

Reckoner

Translation: YOU ARE NOT A TRUE CHRISTIAN UNTIL YOU ARE BEING ENOUGH OF AN ASSHOLE TO PISS EVERYONE AROUND YOU OFF!!1!

4/7/2010 1:56:02 PM
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