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I've thought about this issue for 30 years, and now it seems to me that not even biology class has any need to talk about human sex.

First of all, the human sense of privacy is bound up with sex. This is glaringly obvious in school bathrooms, where boys are so sensitive about their equipment that they go to inordinate lengths to prevent anybody from "peeking." I also saw this in Latin American men during my years in the region.

Pubertal girls are at their most sensitive about their bodies right at the time schools most want to teach them sex ed. Making the discussion clinical does rob it somewhat of privacy, but at the risk of damaging some girl's sense of sexual activity as private. We don't want the subject robbed of its privacy.

Second, it is not necessary to discuss human sex in discussing sexual reproduction. Talk about dogs or cows and let the kids make the connection themselves. They are as hot at school age as we were and will have no problem connecting the dots.

Third, nobody needs to be told that pregnancy results from unprotected sex. It's the oldest "secret" in the history of man. Pretending that boys and girls need "training" in how to don a condom or give a blow job or choke a chicken or use the asshole as a vagina is the most asinine (and profane) notion I ever heard of. Teens know all about condoms, they know how to put them on, they know how to check them for leaks, etc.

The push for sex ed in schools is all about queers and perverts wanting to get an early start on their victims. It's way past time confused conservatives quit enabling those deviates, expecially on OUR buck.

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DesertFox, Free Conservatives 146 Comments [4/8/2010 3:54:27 AM]
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Mr Blur

You are using up oxygen that a normal person could make use of. Please stop.

4/8/2010 4:13:31 AM

Imroy

"The push for sex ed in schools is all about queers and perverts wanting to get an early start on their victims"

Ah, there we go. The old "gay agenda" meme.

DesertFox, I'm glad you think that teenagers can figure out a lot on their own or even "just know" a lot of stuff. Personally, I think that's a recipe for a lot of misinformation, myths, and outright lies being spread amongst the student population. That may be good enough for you faith-heads, but it's not an education.

Lets teach students the facts. It will save them from a lot of fear, anxiety, suffering, and will even save some lives.

4/8/2010 4:27:42 AM

Ambrielle

Wait, you have devoted 30 years to this and that is what you came up with?

WTF do you mean, 'privacy'?

"Third, nobody needs to be told that pregnancy results from unprotected sex."
Speechless. Simply speechless.

"Teens know all about condoms, they know how to put them on, they know how to check them for leaks, etc.
This information is not encoded by our genes.It needs to be, you know, taught.

4/8/2010 4:28:31 AM



Let me stress the importance of sex ed this way;

While in a genders and sexuality in literature class, the first three classes are always taken up by a sort of impromptu sex ed where all the students engage in questions and discussion about sexuality and what's "normal" in sex. This is at the age of 20-25.

A lot of the discussion is basic at first--focused on understanding the human body, and should have been covered in high school sex ed.

If it has to come up in university classes, and isn't part of the curriculum, then something important wasn't being talked about in high school.

4/8/2010 4:29:40 AM

BrendanJD

"Third, nobody needs to be told that pregnancy results from unprotected sex."

Bristol Palin. That is all.

4/8/2010 4:36:58 AM



This is glaringly obvious in school bathrooms, where boys are so sensitive about their equipment that they go to inordinate lengths to prevent anybody from "peeking."

You mean to prevent YOU from peeking? How else would you know what goes on in school bathrooms? Let me guess. You have a kid who is unfortunate enough to be in your care and whenever you go to the school for parent-teacher conferences and various events, you make a point to act like you have to go the bathroom and then start being overly attentive to what the boys are doing and, shockingly enough, they get so creeped out that they are on their guard...Am I in the ballpark?

4/8/2010 4:39:43 AM

Dan Green

This guy's full of it, and I don't want whatever he's smoking. Would the Whargarble Dog picture apply to what he's saying?

4/8/2010 4:43:38 AM

MrsYoungie

Wow - this one goes from strange argument to totally whack job in the last 2 paragraphs. From referring to boys "equipment" - to assholes, choking chickens and(of course) those home deviates.
Strange, strange people on that site.

4/8/2010 5:01:08 AM

aaa

You can keep yapping about this crap all day long, but your daughter is still a big slut. And oh, i boned her.

4/8/2010 5:03:12 AM



And just how, pray tell, would teaching kids about how sex and reproduction occurs between opposite sexes serve to pave the way for the "perverts" to entice kids into homosexual activity?

Following your own false assumption that sexual orientation is a choice, wouldn't such education only serve to reinforce the idea that heterosexual sex is what's considered to be normal, acceptable behavior, thus discouraging kids from falling under the spell of the evil perverts?

4/8/2010 5:07:26 AM

HoJuSimpson

Hmmm... I see. It's so nice to know everyone is born knowing everything.

it is not necessary to discuss human sex in discussing sexual reproduction. Talk about dogs or cows

???

You would like that, wouldn't you?

4/8/2010 5:15:02 AM



Third, nobody needs to be told that pregnancy results from unprotected sex.

What?! You mean that it isn't the stork that brings babies?! MOTHER!! WHY DID YOU LIE TO ME?!

WHYYYYYYYY!!!!?

4/8/2010 5:20:19 AM

Mister Spak

If children already know everything about sex, then they know everything about homosexuality, so having this class doesn't tell them anything they don't already know.


Right?

4/8/2010 5:20:32 AM

Dan Onymous

The fewer conservative nutters who know how to reproduce the better, I say.


And...ummm...why did you say you spent so much time trying to look at penises in bathrooms in various countries...?

4/8/2010 5:25:37 AM

Fedup

I'm guessing come up with all this while waiting for hot anonymous, man on man ass sex at the local rest stop, and then going home, to your block, to give your unsuspecting wife whatever STD's you picked up

4/8/2010 5:34:50 AM

Quantum Mechanic

Homophobe much?

4/8/2010 5:42:25 AM

Swede

If you have one-person stalls in the bathrooms, the problem with "peeking" will go away, completely.

Sex ed should be taught BEFORE puberty kicks in. After it has started it can be too late for some kids.
And no, kids are not born with the knowledge of how to put on a condom, you have to practice before you get it right.

You can't use the asshole as a vagina, there is no womb at the upper end of the asshole.

Knowledge in these matters will "vaccinate" the kids from being seduced by deviates and perverts.
(With deviates and perverts I mean child molesters and older boys who like to dominate younger girls and church-folks who tell kids that sex is WRONG, BAD, EVIL).

4/8/2010 5:52:48 AM

Mihangel apYrs

"This is glaringly obvious in school bathrooms, where boys are so sensitive about their equipment that they go to inordinate lengths to prevent anybody from "peeking." I also saw this in Latin American men during my years in the region...."

Did a lot of "peeking" did we? Or was that just research?

Try that defence in a "cruising" case

4/8/2010 6:01:04 AM

toth

This went from "misguided conservative prudishness" to "bigoted paranoia" surprisingly fast...

4/8/2010 6:02:26 AM



Sorry guy, but if you expect people to believe in the storch or cabbage tale, you´re a little naive.

4/8/2010 6:04:22 AM

Berny

Translation:
I want today's youth to grow up dumb, ignorant, and prejudiced just like I am.

4/8/2010 6:04:27 AM

David B.

"First of all, the human sense of privacy is bound up with sex."

This isn't an argument against sex-ed in the same way that doctor-patient privilege isn't an argument against teaching basic hygiene.

4/8/2010 6:15:50 AM

Doubting Thomas

So when your 15 year old daughter tells you that she's pregnant, you can put down your anti-abortion protest sign and sneak her in the back door of the clinic.

Not expressing to kids that pregnancy results from unprotected sex is the same as letting them believe the lines "Aw, c'mon, you won't get pregnant!" or "You can't get pregnant your first time!"

4/8/2010 6:18:29 AM

shadkat

You have a point about teens knowing about condoms and stuff, but you know something? Speaking as a teen, knowing solid information is never a bad thing.

One of the urban legends at my high school involves a set of best friends and their prom dates. Prom night rolls around, they get a hotel room, then they realize that they only have one condom. Being the examples of human ingenuity that they were, they figured they could just take turns with the condom. And to make sure it wasn't too awkward to know that they just put their junk inside a condom that already had another dude's junk in it, they decided to turn the condom inside out on the second use. They realized that wasn't the brightest idea two months later when Girlfriend B was pregnant with Boyfriend A's baby.

So yeah. I see some use for sex ed. Because even if that story isn't true, you know something like that has probably happened somewhere else.

4/8/2010 6:31:28 AM

wendeewonderland

You think discussing sex and sex itself is so bad yet you spent 30 years thinking about this...sounds like you may be preoccupied with genitals

4/8/2010 6:32:16 AM
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