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[I'm just saying that if there was a perfect conservative candidate who was also gay, that would not be a deal killer for me.]

That’s all well and good, but if you are assuming (even hypothetically) that the is a homosexual on this planet who could be counted on the to be a dependable Republican president, you’ve been brainwashed by liberals. You probably also think that men and women think and solve problems exactly the same way, and the only difference is genetalia. Here is a non-politically correct fact (but a fact none the less): There is no scientific basis whatsoever for the idea that homosexuality is innate. It is an aquired mental illness. Period. Any arguments to that fact are wishful thinking. Now, I have had many wonderful gay friends, and even two close family members, so please accept that I have nothing personal against homosexuality. What I’m saying is that if we ever get to the point where the only dependably conservative candidate we can come up with is gay, then we might as well surrender to the terrorists, because we’ve obviously already surrendered to the liberals and lost already.

presidio9, Free Republic 71 Comments [4/14/2010 10:08:59 AM]
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There is no scientific basis whatsoever for the idea that homosexuality is innate.

Perhaps so. However, there is no legal basis in the US Constitution or the Bill Of Rights that should prohibit a citizen from loving whomever they choose, be it the same or opposite gender.

It is an aquired mental illness. Period.

Glad you put the "period" on there to drive home the point. I was worrying you were going soft on the cause. [/sarcasm]

I'll wager you have no medical or psychiatry degrees under you're belt so how do you qualify as an expert to make this absolute declaration? Oh, you were just spouting your opinion. Ah, I see, that clears it up.

4/14/2010 10:13:27 AM

Sayna

This "love the sinner, hate the sin" bullshit needs to stop. If you really loved your gay family and so-called friends you'd bother to actually educate yourself. You'd realize that this is about who they LOVE and that you can't just choose not to love someone.

4/14/2010 10:14:54 AM

LadyJafaria

Republicans aren't gay. They just have a wide stance.

4/14/2010 10:15:11 AM

I read about the afterlife

"I have had many wonderful gay friends"

Quit inventing friends so that you don't seem bigoted. Why would any homosexuals be friends with you?

4/14/2010 10:16:02 AM

Lucilius

Ah, Freepers: Still unclear on the distinction between "There is no evidence" and "I refuse to look at evidence because it might expose and overturn my mindless bigotry."

4/14/2010 10:16:39 AM

Mudak

Wait a minute. Over an above the summary dismissal of someone who might be gay, take a look at this statement, which is being used as a verbal eyeroll...

You probably also think that men and women think and solve problems exactly the same way, and the only difference is genetalia

Let's ignore the glaring tpyo in there. No two people think and solve problems exactly the same way. But neither men nor women have a lock on a "correct" way of thinking or solving problems. In fact, the whole problem-solving process ought to have a diversity in opinion and experience simply because that means person A can think of a solution that person B might not have thought of...

4/14/2010 10:25:38 AM



This has every fundie Cliche in it.
Stating that there is no evidence for anything there is evidence for. Check

Stating that anything you try to defend is pointless because it's not going to change my mind. Check.

Using a strawman argument. Check.

Lying that you have friends that are homosexual so you don't come across as a hateful bigot. Check.

Blaming things on Liberals. Check.

Comparing Liberals to terrorists. Check.

4/14/2010 10:26:20 AM

Berny

There is no scientific basis whatsoever for the idea that homosexuality is innate. It is an aquired mental illness. Period.

If that's the case, you won't mind showing us your medical evidence demonstrating this fact?
Oh, wait, you haven't got any.

4/14/2010 10:38:14 AM

WMDKitty

Yeah, because who you fall in love with is TOTALLY determined by your political views.... /sarcasm

4/14/2010 10:39:35 AM

AuraTwilight

Alright...so how does homosexuality not being genetic or inborn at all mean that a homosexual can't be a dependable Republican candidate?

I mean, unlike you closet-cases, the real world doesn't think that someone's sexuality determines their entire political spectrum.

4/14/2010 10:44:01 AM

Sasha

There is no scientific basis whatsoever for the idea that homosexuality is innate. It is an aquired mental illness. Period.

Please show us your scientific evidence for the idea that homosexuality is an acquired mental illness. And then share it with the APA. They could probably use a good laugh.

4/14/2010 10:45:41 AM

BlackMageJ

Any arguments to that fact are wishful thinking.

You mean any arguments against that fa... actually, no, the way you said it is right.

4/14/2010 10:52:34 AM

Andre

Somehow, you know their evidence is from an organization whose every citation cites the organization itself... peer-reviewed scientific publications are for liberal pussies.

As for the "many wonderful gay friends"... I could buy that, provided "many wonderful gay friends" actually means "I once ate lunch at the same table as some gay guy".

4/14/2010 10:54:08 AM

GigaGuess

That’s all well and good, but if you are assuming (even hypothetically) that the is a homosexual on this planet who could be counted on the to be a dependable Republican president, you’ve been brainwashed by liberals.
Look up Log Cabin Republicans. Then talk to me.

You probably also think that men and women think and solve problems exactly the same way, and the only difference is genetalia.
No, a person's problem solving skills vary wildly person to person. But it has no bearing on what lay between the loins. Or where it's put for that matter.

Here is a non-politically correct fact (but a fact none the less): There is no scientific basis whatsoever for the idea that homosexuality is innate.
Except for the fact that suppressing it is traumatic, often leading to suicide or depression, and other niggling things like that. But don't let facts get int the way of your bigotry.

It is an aquired mental illness. Period.
Funny. The APA disagrees. Who to trust...the bigot, or the APA? Bigot...APA...bigot...APA...gosh, this is a toughie.

Any arguments to that fact are wishful thinking.
He says with no scientific backing whatsoever.

Now, I have had many wonderful gay friends, and even two close family members, so please accept that I have nothing personal against homosexuality.
Top to bottom bullshit.

What I’m saying is that if we ever get to the point where the only dependably conservative candidate we can come up with is gay, then we might as well surrender to the terrorists, because we’ve obviously already surrendered to the liberals and lost already.
Well if your sole determining factor on who you will vote for is who he'll sleep with, why were you guys so dead against Slick Willie...?

4/14/2010 10:56:09 AM

El Zorro

"so please accept that I have nothing personal against homosexuality."

Really? First you call it "an aquired mental illness" and then you liken the acceptance of a gay conservative to surrendering to terrorists.

4/14/2010 11:03:24 AM

Doubting Thomas

"What I’m saying is that if we ever get to the point where the only dependably conservative candidate we can come up with is gay, then we might as well surrender to the terrorists"

Guess you've never heard of all the Republican gay sex scandals... Ever hear of Larry Craig? Guess that little tryst in the airport men's room was just a little misunderstanding...

4/14/2010 11:07:53 AM

Creedence Leonore Gielgud

I bet some of his best friends are "colored" too.


4/14/2010 11:12:53 AM

Quantum Mechanic

Wrong.

4/14/2010 11:17:18 AM

Swede

There's no scientific basis whatsoever for Creation either. But has that ever stopped you guys from promoting creationism?

I don't understand how you can love people, while saying they are mentally insane for being who they are. Either you love someone, and then you also respect that person, or you don't respect someone, and then you can't love that person either.

Hate to break it to you, but you HAVE lost it to the Liberals. A liberal person won the latest election, by a landslide if I understand it correctly.
Terrorists are not liberals, they are mostly ultra-conservatives, or ultra-communists, people on either of the outer flanks of the political spectrum.

I'm with Mudak on the whole women's way of solving problems and men's way of solving problems.
An addendum; as society consists of BOTH men AND women, in fairly equal measures, shouldn't the government also consist of a fairly equal amount of men and women? They could take turns on who's to be the Presidential candidate and who's to be the VP candidate. One election it's the men's turn to run for President and the next time it's the women's.
As GWB and Sarah Palin showed, it's clearly not a question of finding the most intelligent person to run for office. I don't really know what the question actually IS, come to think of it. Hillary Rodham Clinton seems much more intelligent than her husband, but he has been the president and she has not, yet.

4/14/2010 11:18:24 AM

Mister Spak

"Here is a non-politically correct fact (but a fact none the less): "

http://www.livescience.com/health/080617-hereditary-homosexuality.html

Any arguments to that fact are wishful thinking.


4/14/2010 11:28:59 AM



Um...you did lose. Also, you're a shitty friend.

4/14/2010 11:42:47 AM

TGRwulf

" Now, I have had many wonderful gay friends, and even two close family members, so please accept that I have nothing personal against homosexuality."

O RLY?

You could of fooled me. Whenever assholes like this guy play that card I honestly think their pulling it out of their ass to make themselves look like less of a bigot.

4/14/2010 11:43:50 AM

freako104

Ever read the DSM IV? No? Then what qualifications do you have saying what is and isn't mental illness?

4/14/2010 11:45:36 AM

oop

"What I’m saying is that if we ever get to the point where the only dependably conservative candidate we can come up with is gay, then we might as well surrender to the terrorists, because we’ve obviously already surrendered to the liberals and lost already."

As far as you being willing to surrender to the terrorists, go to Hell. You are way too wimpy to stand up against the threats to this country.

Us veterans are ready to take on all threats, foreign or domestic. And yeah, don't ask me why, but we will save your ass too.

4/14/2010 11:54:23 AM

John

There is no scientific basis whatsoever for the idea that homosexuality is innate.

Sure there is. Gay men tend to be statistically more likely to have a gay uncle on their mother's side, and the younger brothers of straight men are statistically more likely to be gay. Both of these suggest a genetic connection, possibly on the X chromosome.

4/14/2010 12:00:18 PM
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