[A woman writes for advice because her boyfriend is short-tempered and snaps at her often.]
This is all she needs to know, whether as a girlfriend or a wife:
"Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands."
A girlfriend or wife does NOT criticize a man. This vain, proud woman would do well to know this and live it.
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Certainly, she could take the Biblical view and risk marrying and breeding with a lout by hoping that any children she has won't inherit any of her short-tempered husbands obnoxious traits. My advice to the woman would be to dump the lout and look for better genetic material to work with for the sake of any offspring.
After all, she would hardly want to bring any more boorish and humourless beings into the world with a good chance that they will develop trollish tendencies and possibly become the type of drooling imbeciles who take the translation of ancient texts as proof of a fantasy overlord.
Why is it never "as the church submits to Christ, so also husbands should submit in everything to their wives"? It sounds just as logic to me.
To these dolts, one has the urge to yell "Lorena Bobbitt for President".
And you conveniently forget that the man MUST love the woman, eh?. And specially, that girlfriends are not included in the Bible. A little consequence, please.
David J. Stewart? Is that you?
If not, so basically what you are saying is, "Women, whatever you do, don't make your man angry. Because if he gets angry and hurts you, it was all your fault."
You aren't by chance a single male are you Holy_Bible_Lover? How did I figure that out? Oh, just a lucky guess.
What HBL neglects to mention is that the very next lines in that passage are:"Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. After all, no one ever hated his own body, but he feeds and cares for it, just as Christ does the church"
So no HBL, she should not just "live with it", even your own stupid holy book says the husband should be "rebuked" for being a dick (1 Tim 5:20), but with typical hypocrisy you are cherry picking which bits of the bible to love and which you will quietly forget all about.
Live with it my ass. If I verbally harassed my partner (male or female, in my case male) I would fully expect a swift kick to my balls, which I would deserve.
Abuse, of any kind, is NEVER EVER okay.
I should let my black belt wife go rampaging through you idiots. I'm really annoyed with the "feminist" movement, for my own reasons, but I sure as hell would agree with them before I agree with any brain dead bible thumper. And although I think that any woman who wants to be equal to men is selling herself short I still have to say:
WOMEN ARE EQUAL YOU MORON.
Die in a fire is to nice for you. There are any number of industrial machines that could provide the much slower and painful demise you deserve. Its because of idiots like you that my own wife did not trust me at the beginning of our relationship.
Idiots.
Typical christian spouting typical archaic bullshit.
So when he finally goes off the deep end and beats her to death, she can go to heaven knowing she followed gods path. Yay!
If I was a battered and abuse woman and someone read that passage to me, they'd be walking funny from having that fucking Bible shoved up their ass sideways.
Um, girlfriends aren't Biblical, dumbass. Even the Bible itself says that a woman need only submit to her own husband (and he's supposed to love her in return).
And some women in the Bible did criticize their husbands, or other male kin, and deservedly so:
Genesis 21:12 God told Abraham to listen to Sarah
There are plenty of other examples where women either criticized men, or were protected against male criticism.
YOU FAIL, "Holy Bible Lover."
Yeah, it's perfectly OK if he slaps her around whether she needs it or not. She just needs to shut up & stay in the kitchen making dinner and babies.
And Christians wonder why people think they're misogynist.
Women: You can't live with them and you can't shoot them.
Seriously, where do you draw the line. Can the man just kill the bitch if he wants to? Is that ok?
That same verse also goes on to say that a man should be loving towards his wife just like Christ was loving to the church. And a man who loved his woman, would never EVER hit her.
And another thing, she's his girlfriend, she doesn't have to live with his shit.
One of the terrible things about this sort comment is the reaction I find myself having to it. I really want to give HBL a taste of their own "shut-up and take it bitch" medicine and make it hurt, but I don't want to be that person.
OTOH, if ever an argument can be made for justifiable lesson-teaching-with-extreme-prejudice this would be it.
I really hope the person asking for advice knew not to head down a road that almost always ends in the back of an ambulance. It happens far to often as it is.
'A girlfriend or wife does NOT criticize a man. This vain, proud woman would do well to know this and live it.'
FUCK OFF & DIE. This so-called 'Holy Bible Lover' is nothing more than a misogynist. Go shove your filthy KJV Bible up your shitpipe. Oh, and every sane woman will know to stay miles away from fundy maggots like you. You're a waste of a human being.
The Bible doesn't say "Girlfriends, submit to your own boyfriends", or "Girlfriends, don't dump your boyfriends when they act like assholes."
Besides, what did the sexually dysfunctional Paul know about women or marriage? His advice is about as useful as advice from a Catholic priest.
As someone who owes her very existence to a woman divorcing an abusive husband, then meeting and eventually marrying a decent man, fuck you sideways, HBL. In the ear.
No woman, in fact, no human being, anywhere, EVER, deserves to be treated like trash by someone who claims to "love" zir. The vain, apathetic HBL would do well to know this and live it, instead of demonstrating such an extreme lack of empathy.
@posty:"The sad part is, Holy_Bible_Lover later on claims to be a married woman. Also I really don't remember girlfriends being mentioned in the Bible."
We really need to bring back the awards, this quote is prime Fundie Stockholm Syndrome Award material.
My God your disgusting. Ok here we go... (from the Bible of Gnostis Veritas)
"Husbands, submit to your own wives, as to the FSM. For the Wife is the CHILDBEARING/BEAUTIFUL/LOVING head of the husband even as the FSM is the head of Le Cordon Bleue (sic?) and is a part of it himself with his noodly appendages. Now... as LCB submits to the FSM, so also husbands should submit in everything to their wives."
A boyfriend or husband DOES NOT criticize a woman. This arrogant, pompous man would do well to know this and live it.
See how easy that was to bitch slap you down as well using a fictitious God/Bible passage? Yeah... SO STFU! Misognystic creepstain.
@ all Sisters believing in Christ
Please tell me this is not true! But if it is, leave that weak man and find the equal partner YOU deserve.
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