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[Judge deems national "Day of Prayer" unconstitutional]

It still boggles my mind how hard atheists are willing to work, in order to make sure they never hear anything about what they don't believe in. I mean, it's like me going to court to outlaw any talk of the Tooth Fairy, because I don't believe in her and it offends me that some people do. (Sorry if that spills the beans for some of you. ) Just ridiculous.

midwestmama, RR 60 Comments [4/25/2010 6:38:09 PM]
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rcpilot

"Don't we have like national weed day & shit? The RR thread is stupid for sure, but this is definitely a frivolous lawsuit."

No we don't have a 'national weed day & shit' you stupid stoner, at least not in this sense. If these people were just simply organizing a day of prayer it would be fine (like your weed day & shit), but this is an official government sanctioned day of prayer.

4/25/2010 10:48:24 PM

solomongrundy

If the US government promoted a national 'Pray to the Tooth Fairy' day I'm pretty sure the Rapturetards would be up in arms (perhaps, like the tea-baggers, literally...).

4/26/2010 12:18:32 AM

Raskolnikov

Stupidity at it's best. If I didn't know it was on RR, I'd have said it's a Poe.

4/26/2010 2:38:34 AM

MiriamM

That's actually not a bad comparison. Just like most theists wouldn't have a problem with people believing in the tooth fairy, most atheists don't have a problem with people believing in gods. However, most theists would have a problem with a 'national day of the tooth fairy', teaching children of the tooth fairy in health class, forbidding oral surgery, or denying rights to people with false teeth.

4/26/2010 2:48:05 AM

Swede

They are not trying to outlaw something, they are trying to keep you from making prayers and Christianity mandatory.
If you want a theocracy, move to Saudi Arabia. They even call people to the five mandatory prayers each day.
Just say after me and you'd do fine: "La ilaha illallah". (There are no other gods but God.)
What does it matter if they say it in Arabic? Just ridiculous.

4/26/2010 3:25:46 AM

Blasphemina

Yeah, like those assholes who want evolution out of the schools and who get all the atheist billboards taken down and who think the National Day of Silence is terrorism. OOPS.

4/26/2010 3:30:52 AM

Blasphemina

#1151273


Of course you fail by to realize that by becoming more and more demanding in your quest to shove your fundamentalist religion down everyone else's throats and institutionalize it within our government over the last thirty or so years with attacks on reproductive and gay rights, education, etc., that you've screwed yourselves by scaring the living hell out of the rest of us, fatihful and atheist alike. Something which is largely symbolic, like this Day of Prayer, would probably have slid by unopposed a few decades ago, but because it's now (correctly) seen as a part of your larger plan to institute your own theocracy, you've been challenged. You made your own bed.

Right on!

4/26/2010 3:34:58 AM

SeekerLancer

No one is outlawing prayer you dumb fucks. You can have all the national days, weeks, months, years of prayer you want right in front of an atheist. The point is it's unconstitutional for it to be state sponsored.

4/26/2010 6:45:41 AM

Berny

Hey, midwestmama, try reading your Constitution again. Pay attention to the part where it says Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
You are free to pray anytime and anywhere you want. Most of you already do. The State simply doesn't have the right to enforce a Day of Prayer. Get your churches to do that.
You live in a secular nation. Deal with it.

4/26/2010 7:16:32 AM

TGRwulf

It's not that we don't want you to be allowed to practice what you believe, it's that making a MANDATORy day of prayer is not only unconstitutional, but is also against the Treaty Of Tripoli.

4/26/2010 7:58:40 AM



As opposed to the guys who want all the mosques shut down in the country. At least, be consenquent.

4/26/2010 8:46:23 AM

Saladin

If you want a day of prayer, you don't need the government. I mean, seriously, come on. Go and do it yourself.

ALSO

Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


4/26/2010 10:37:26 AM

Zoo

Wanting the government to be an impartial party regarding religion is not the same as wanting to never hear about religion. If we were trying to get rid of everything that might remind us of what we don't believe in we wouldn't be bothering with stopping the government from doing unconstitutional things, we'd be doing things like burning books left and right and killing all religious people.

4/26/2010 11:03:25 AM

Doubting Thomas

No, we're not trying to make sure we never hear about religion, we just disagree with any state-sponsored religion. We believe in the first amendment and the wall of separation between church and state.

And if the government had an official day of prayer to the Tooth Fairy, I'd be against that, too.

But let's see what the National Day of Prayer is really all about: It's all about forcing religion into government. Face it, if Christians want to pray, they can do it whenever and wherever they want. They don't need a NDoP to pray. Neither does anyone of any other religion, they're all free to pray to their gods. So basically a NDoP is the government telling everyone that they should pray. In other words, telling people that they shouldn't be atheists. So yes, we atheists should fight against the NDoP. It's unconstitutional and not needed in the first place.

4/26/2010 12:39:07 PM

Canon Father

One little-known fact about the dear old Tooth Fairy: if you have a T Rex tooth under your pillow, she sends you a succubus.

4/26/2010 3:00:28 PM

Canadiest

When some idiot tries to legislate the Tooth Fairy into law,,,tell me how you feel then.

4/26/2010 3:31:26 PM

moose

The prayer to the tooth fairy would be just as objectionable. But talk about the tooth fairy as an imaginary invention would be fine, as well as talk about the wholly babble and its "message" being an imaginary invention as well. Get over it. Your religion is as valid as the tooth fairy. We (intelligent people) have better things to do than talk about folk lore as being real.

4/26/2010 4:34:17 PM

Brenz

Talk =/= Institutionalized Action

4/26/2010 8:48:55 PM

Catherine

Midwestmama...you WOULD if there were billions of people in the world who believed the tooth fairy existed (despite there being no evidence of one) and they were trying to force their beliefs about it into your laws, schools, and government. Heck, considering the meltdown Christians are *renowned* for having over ridiculous things like Harry Potter and Tellytubbies, you are a HYPOCRITE saying Christians "don't feel the need to talk about things they don't believe in". You guys don't just "talk" about things you don't believe in...you hold book burnings over it.
If people were trying to force belief in the tooth fairy on you to the extent that Christians try to force their beliefs on others, not only would you be "talking" about it, you'd be rioting in the streets about it.

4/27/2010 4:39:12 AM

Anon-e-moose

"It still boggles my mind how hard atheists are willing to work, in order to make sure they never hear anything about what they don't believe in."

It still boggles my mind how hard fundies are willing to work, in order to force their beliefs down the throats of others and push their agendas, to make sure they hear about what they don't believe in, nor want in the first place.

Whereas the Buddhists, Amish, Quakers and Unitarian Universalists don't.

Just ridiculous.

4/27/2010 6:22:37 AM

I read about the afterlife

@lithp

Yeah but our national Weed Day & Shit isn't endorsed by the government. If they want to have their own national prayer day through some intrinsic means of getting all the churches in on it without having the government endorse it -- it is FINE by me. However, the government endorsing it when the constitution clearly states that they will not make a law respecting any religion, that's just wrong.

4/27/2010 7:18:39 AM

DOS

Id be glad the atheists haven gone further, given what you see her its likely the next thing atheists will want is to put all christians or christians who dont follow their moralless liberal views, into concentration camps ofr extermination. This is just step one in the atheist crusade to destroy all religions

4/27/2010 2:46:11 PM

DOS

Heres something you atheists should learn.

Life aint fair.

Go suck it and die or move to the atheist states of europe.

4/27/2010 2:47:27 PM

GigaGuess

Oh for...

NO ONE'S BANNING PRAYER, YOU DINGBAT! They are saying that holding a National Day of Prayer is unconstitutional, as it endorses a religion. So pray all you want. Pray 'til you're blue in the face. Pray while standing on your head with a candle in your ass! no one cares. Just don't expect the state to endorse it.

4/27/2010 3:07:35 PM

Anemone

Hey, believing in the Tooth Fairy makes about as much sense as believing in God.

4/27/2010 7:55:13 PM
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