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I think it's important that you do not consider yourself more righteous. The Bible does make it very clear that homosexuality is something that God is not ok with. But it's also clear that adultery, incest, rape, murder, thievery, conning people, lying, usury, idolatry, etc, are not ok with Him either. That being said, I don't see any good argument to allow homosexual marriages. So what if they love each other? If a pedophile loves a 9 year old girl does that make it ok for them to marry? If not, why should the way one feels about another determine the right to marry? It's not about feelings... Marriage is not a government institution; it is a Judeo-Christian institution. It is not up to the government of any state to redefine it... And no matter what the homosexual lobby says, and no matter what any judge says, they cannot change my mind about it, because my opinion is informed by God's Holy Scripture, which I believe to be infallible. I also find it regrettable that adultery is not a crime in this country anymore... Women are not respected as they should be in our world anymore. The respect of a woman is not in considering her co-equal to a man, nor is it ensuring that she has the same employment opportunities as a man. Respect of a woman is to treat her as a Gift from God to all men... we are to keep them from harms way even if they don't like it.

Flannel Avenger, ILJ Boards 17 Comments [5/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Matilde

So treat her as an object is ok with GOD?, man, you don't read the Gospel often.

8/14/2006 10:54:50 AM

Rahab

The same way you \"respect\" your pet dog or your microwave oven, I presume.

1/26/2007 9:53:50 PM

pbagosy

Marriage is not a government institution; it is a Judeo-Christian institution. It is not up to the government of any state to redefine it

In that case, it's not up to the government to even sanction it, and therefore, civil unions should be the only thing that governments can grant, regardless of the sex of the couple. If the UCC wants to call it \"marriage\", that's their call, not the governments.

And if I want to call my place of non Judeo-Christian worship a church, what are you going to do about it?

-pb

1/26/2007 10:12:12 PM



For grown women are like children, they need the holy hand and guidance of men. Never mind that women mature faster than men or that they live longer on average. Never mind that women are perfectly capable of intelligent thought, reason, and self-sufficiency, just like men are. We should follow the example of that wise sage Solomon, with his numerous wives and concubines, and lock all of them in breeding pens like pigs. Shut up with your patronizing drivel.

2/20/2008 8:27:15 PM

canadiest

Half those things you say God is not OK with he seems to have personally done or directed his followers to do. Why don't you read that damn thing sometime!

2/23/2008 6:17:14 AM

apYrs

OK

if a woman is widowed, does the church have to give her an income to stay at hold and keep house? Does she have to marry her husband's brother? Should the state keep her?

What should she do?


Certainly not go out and work.

2/23/2008 10:46:58 AM

T. McGee

I'll take disrespect, please.

7/22/2008 7:52:36 PM

nemesis

So non-Christians/Jews shouldn't be allowed to marry? And BTW, adultry was never a crime in this country.

7/22/2008 8:05:33 PM



"If a pedophile loves a 9 year old girl does that make it ok for them to marry?"
According to the Babble, that's A-OK

7/22/2008 11:42:43 PM



(Tired, weary voice) Informed consent you moron, informed consent.

8/6/2008 12:14:16 PM

David B.

I see that Flannel Avenger conspicuously omits all the things God is not okay with that he probably does.

Obviously, considering yourself righteous does not actually involve more than following the bits of the bible you agree with.

Come to think of it, that's what I do anyway. Righteous!

8/6/2008 12:55:43 PM

Quantum Mechanic

I quit reading at "I think."

8/6/2008 12:59:17 PM

Crimson Lizard

For the ten thousandth time, Christians did not invent marriage, so stop acting like you own it, much less have the right to define it to exclude people you don't like.

Criminalize adultery? Sure, tie up the courts some more. Don't you Americans have enough prison overcrowding?

"Gift from God", eh? Look at the complete disrespect with which you treat the last gift God gave you - the earth. Actually, there are a lot of parallels there...

Anyhow, try to "respect" (enslave) me and see how fast I exercise my human right to self-determination by kicking your misogynist ass. It's not about respect, it's about control, and your last sentence clinches it.

8/28/2012 10:17:31 AM

Anon

>>Marriage is not a government institution; it is a Judeo-Christian institution.<<

Ahem:

"Kamesumicchacara verama?i sikkhapada? samadiyami." - Pali Canon, 29 BCE, quoting the 4th of Gautama Buddha's 5 Precepts (c. 500 BCE)

Translation: "I will abstain from sexual misconduct."

Which, in the context of marriage, is usually interpreted as consensual monogamous sexual relationships between two adults: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_view_of_marriage. Buddhist clergy (usually) take a more strict vow to abstain from all sexual activity.

So the Buddhist form of marriage predates the formation of Judaism, which coalesced as a syncretization of Canaanite religion, elements of Zoroastrianism, and worship of Yahweh circa 500-400 BCE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_Judaism). We can pull examples from Ancient Greece, Ancient Egypt, and Ancient China, if we want to make the point even clearer.

And of course cultures without any contact with Christianity or Judaism have had their own forms of marriage, almost always monogamous - although there is a tendency for cultures to excuse powerful men having multiple sexual partners (Jared Diamond discusses this in an accessible fashion in The Third Chimpanzee).

8/28/2012 10:38:39 AM

Swede

A 9-year-old has no concept of marital love, that's why child-marriages are not OK. Plus, a 9yo is not allowed to enter into a contract, which a marriage basically is.

Marriage can be found in all religions and cultures around the world, and throughout recorded history, so it's definitely NOT a "Judeo-Christian institution". Who cares what your bigoted little mind says about it? It's what a majority thinks about it that matters, as long as it doesn't discriminate against a minority. And no, not being able to keep consenting adults from marrying is not a discrimination.

If that is your concept of "respect", I'd rather abstain, thank you very much. I want the first two things you mention, not the object part. We're adult people, not children or pets, asshole!

4/11/2014 4:08:06 AM

Kuno

Marriage is not a government institution; it is a Judeo-Christian institution. It is not up to the government of any state to redefine it...

Then why the hell are there laws regulating it?

And no matter what the homosexual lobby says, and no matter what any judge says, they cannot change my mind about it, because my opinion is informed by God's Holy Scripture, which I believe to be infallible.

No one is demanding of you to change your mind. You think about it whatever you want. Just stop demanding that everyone else also follows only what you think.

4/11/2014 4:37:59 AM

Violet_Beauregarde

"Respect of a woman is to treat her as a Gift from God to all men..."
This gives off a gang-bang vibe. If this is respect, I'd hate to see their disrespect.
"The respect of a woman is not in considering her co-equal to a man, nor is it ensuring that she has the same employment opportunities as a man..."
Like T. McGee said: I'll take disrespect then.

4/11/2014 10:30:31 AM
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