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As somebody who was raised Catholic I can confirm that they do, indeed, pray to Mary, and I never heard any rationalistions about praying THROUGH Mary either.
4/29/2010 1:35:05 PM
Oh dear. I seem to need a new irony meter.
4/29/2010 2:40:04 PM
Arguments between theology experts are the mostest fun ever.
4/29/2010 2:59:54 PM
That's because you actually don't understand Catholicism.
4/29/2010 3:05:19 PM
4/29/2010 3:33:29 PM
Translation: My imaginary friend is better than your imaginary friend.
4/29/2010 3:58:38 PM
Percy Q. Shunn
they seem to be blind to the truth
No truer, or more ironic words have ever been spoken.
4/29/2010 4:00:00 PM
4/29/2010 4:57:12 PM
4/29/2010 5:07:31 PM
It was like arguing with a brick wall.
Yeah. I get that whenever I try to talk to you people about all the errors and contradictions in the Bible.
4/29/2010 5:19:18 PM
a rapture retard complaining about arguing with a brick wall
4/29/2010 6:51:12 PM
Mirror, mirror, on the wall...
4/29/2010 7:23:46 PM
Yeah. Catholics are somewhat quirky in their approach to abandoning their mental wherewithal. They could take a few tips from their friends in lunacy. For example, they could cut down by a good half their overbearing Marian addiction and start leavening it by engaging in trumpet-fanfare and sky-hovering concerns. They could formulate plans for when the Great Whooshfest takes place, which, as we all know, is going to be soon. They could be become engrossed in both the giving and receiving of persecution, but, the only downside, they may have to give up some of their abusive rites and rituals, specially those concerning children.
4/29/2010 8:00:29 PM
Possibly a fine piece of poery.
Would an RRer name themselves after a giant/demon dude?
4/29/2010 8:11:53 PM
4/29/2010 8:31:01 PM
Holy sh*t! That is f**king beautiful! lol.
4/29/2010 8:49:01 PM
Well, aren't you doing the same, Praying to Jesus in hopes he takes your request to his daddy?
As for arguing with brick wall, I would suggest you look in a mirror.
4/29/2010 8:51:56 PM
She was doing exactly what you do with others. Hurts, eh?
4/30/2010 1:36:55 AM
If you think about it, pretty much all Christians are praying to a cross, which is idolatry by your own standards. Now, don't start that "we are praying through it" bullshit with me, okay?
4/30/2010 6:43:49 AM
"They just can't see that they are praying to someone other than God, and they can't see that it is wrong."
You mean how fundamentalist Christians always pray to Jesus?
Yes, Catholics do pray to Mary, but it's no more crazy than Protestants worshiping Jesus more than God.
4/30/2010 7:04:59 AM
Not so sure of your position. There is the Catholic Hymn, 'Hail Queen of heaven', in which there is the line: '...we sinners make our prayers through thee. Remind thy son that he has paid the price of our iniquity...'
the point, however, is that Catholics, as I understand it invoke Mary's intercession on their behalf, on the basis that Jesus heard her request at Cana that the young couple should not be embarrassed by the lack of wine... The rationalisation of this that that if Jesus heard her request then, she, still his mother, will surely be able to present the prayers of believers more cogently to her son in heaven.
This has nothing to do with believing that Mary has special powers. Catholics, who know their religion, are quick to point out that although mary may intercede, it is no more than that. She does not have the final say in the matter. Again, it suits some to cherry pick, or to ignore the lesson that is clear from the Cana wedding. Mary has influence over her son. If this is not so in the afterlife, then nothing can be extrapolated with any certainty from the scriptures - not that anything can, anyway.
4/30/2010 11:05:00 AM
Pot Kettle, Black.
4/30/2010 11:08:30 AM
I mean, how ridiculous, trying to speak to your imaginary friend via your imaginary friend's imaginary son's imaginary mother instead of going directly to the imaginary friend himself.
5/1/2010 3:19:11 AM
The Catholic Church thought that everyone reading the Bible wouldn't result in everyone seeing it for what, but would create a thousand different sects. Boy, they were wrong, weren't they. Each verse clearly has only one possible meaning.
I'm astonished you failed to convert her.
5/1/2010 9:02:52 AM
We could put this on tv and call it, "World's Craziest Arguments."
5/1/2010 10:37:58 AM
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