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An Indonesian court has ruled to uphold a 1965 blasphemy law that allows for criminal penalties and bans on people or groups that "distort'' the central tenets of six officially recognised religions.

The court on Monday rejected a petition by moderate Muslims, religious minorities, democracy advocates and rights groups against the law in a case seen as a major test of the mainly Muslim country's pluralism.

The law carries a maximum punishment of five years for beliefs that deviate from the orthodox versions of six sanctioned faiths - Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Catholicism, Protestantism and Confucianism.

Indonesian court, Al Jazeera English 25 Comments [4/29/2010 9:38:20 AM]
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Imagine a boot, on a human face, forever.

4/29/2010 9:46:21 AM

Mister Spak

I'd like to see them referee the dispute between catholics and protestants over which one are the real christians. Although the dispute between the sunnis and shiites would be more exciting.

4/29/2010 10:09:34 AM

@Mister Spak

IRA. That is all

4/29/2010 10:39:07 AM

Rumpshaker Slim

Dosen't Protestantism count as a distortion of Catholicism already?

4/29/2010 10:48:54 AM

Professor M

Fortunately, we don't have to speculate without basis when we wonder what happens when different Protestant denominations argue over whose doctrines get to be declared orthodox by the state. We saw it happen in North America during the colonial period -- and it was bloody as hell.

4/29/2010 10:54:36 AM

Pule Thamex

And we think there are some dull wankers in the west. Looks like we may have some catching up to do. Though, saying that, the Labour Party tossers that have been governing us in the UK for the last few years are not far off this level of stupidity, and, actually, probably approve of it. Thankfully, we'll be saying bye-bye to them next Thursday when we'll all be voting in a General Election.

4/29/2010 10:59:53 AM


I am disappointed in you, Indonesia. The best way for you to gain any good reputation is to stop defending ridiculous laws like this. And something tells me that some moron is going to whiteknight these relics of the 12th century.

4/29/2010 11:09:19 AM

This is just a small court decision pressured by the FUI. It's main target is not Christians or Buddhists or whatever. It's main target is the Ahmadiyya Muslims against whom the FUI has been campaigning. They cant wint an agument against them so they decide to go emo whaaaaambulance real hard hehehehe

4/29/2010 12:04:30 PM


This is why it's important to keep religion out of government. Do you see know why the "under god", "in god we trust" etc thing is a dangerous, slippery slope?

4/29/2010 12:18:21 PM

Mister J

So, where do the Sikhs, Jews, Zoroastrians stand with all this?

4/29/2010 1:12:01 PM


In that case, I would join all six so that I could do whatever the hell I wanted.

Does God exist? My inner Buddhist says no.
Was Jesus the Christ? My inner Muslim says no.
Was Mohammed a prophet? My inner Christian says no.
etc. etc. etc.

4/29/2010 1:17:36 PM


I guess Buddhism wins in this case: You have to believe that Jesus was the Son of God and that he wasn't, and that the Pope is the leader and that he isn't. Sounds pretty Zen to me.

4/29/2010 1:19:55 PM

Mrs. Antichrist

And this is why allowing the government to mandate religion is a bad, bad thing.

4/29/2010 1:24:47 PM

Eh....So, if you're Catholic, you'll get five years in prison for practicing birth control, but if you're Protestant, you won't? WTF?

4/29/2010 2:02:39 PM

Old Viking

This is called selective tolerance.

4/29/2010 2:49:56 PM


WOw, just wow.

4/29/2010 3:06:48 PM

Percy Q. Shunn

And yet the christ-stains in America would do the exact same thing, if given half a chance.

4/29/2010 3:46:03 PM


I've said it before and I will say it again,
Blasphemy is a victimless crime.
If you're offended when I say your god is a myth, suck it up.

4/29/2010 5:23:22 PM


Historically this kind of shit can go two ways.

Theocratic dictatorship or revolution, peaceful or otherwise.

Just saying, odds are good, one or the other.

4/29/2010 9:37:21 PM


You have to give them some credit.
Firstly Indonesea is not a secular nation, but supports 6 mainstream global religions. Secondly, a number of the people of those religions within indonesia compainged against the law.
I have seen worse.

4/29/2010 11:18:10 PM

The funny thing is, what will they do without killing between themselves?. All those religions contradict the tenets of faith of the others.

4/30/2010 1:30:53 AM


Who decides what's orthodox enough?

4/30/2010 3:29:54 AM


Wow, who gets the nod for orthodox Islam, Shi'ite or Sunni?
Imagine the Baptists trying to settle who are 'orthodox' Protestants!
5 years in prison, when the actual answer is 'none of the above'. Poor Indonesia!

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5/2/2010 12:50:43 AM


Thankfully this probably won't work that well in practice

5/3/2010 9:07:42 AM

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