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Now, I'm sure some will not agree with me on this but I believe torture is usefull in obtaining intelligence, what happened in the prison was not this, what happened there was just plain evil, but as ugly as it is there are times in war where torture to a degree has to be used.

jfreeman, Rapture Ready 12 Comments [5/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Robbie

The Geneva Convention disagrees, methinks.

6/13/2007 1:54:12 PM

Laurel

Because when someone will say anything you want them to say in order to make the pain stop, you're bound to get the truth out of them? Not only is it evil, it doesn't work.

6/13/2007 3:26:23 PM

szena

Too bad there's no proof that it's useful.

In fact, wasn't there a case recently in which a prisoner confessed to all sorts of things he couldn't possibly have done?

6/13/2007 4:42:16 PM

agentCDE

Torture is the WORST possible method of gaining ANY intelligence or confession. Give me enough time and enough sharp things and batteries and I bet I can make you admit to being the Shooter on the Grassy Knoll, Don Knotts, the Antichrist, or anything else I could dream up.

Remember, 2 + 2 = 5. Big Brother loves you.

6/13/2007 6:47:34 PM

Freboy

If a person enters you house, tells you it's dusty, that dust is dangerous and wants to sell you a vacuum cleaner, you'll probably feel some scepticism.

(I really want to use caps here.)
The same people who told you Al-Quaeda was behind 9/11, told you Al-Quaeda resided in Afghanistan and Iraq, told you that you had to invade them, told you that these people must be tortured and that you have to give up your liberties to be safe.

You are such a fucking tool you probably like it.

6/14/2007 10:35:44 AM

MarylandBear

The Soviets, who knew about torture, disagreed. If they wanted someone to confess, accurately or not, they tortured them.

If they wanted information, they knew the secret was to treat the target nicely.

6/14/2007 11:06:27 AM

Tormentor of Religion

As (nearly) everyone already pointed out, torture is useless if you want intel. Drugs are better, because "they (the prisoners) think they've already told you everything while under the influence".

4/1/2009 10:15:48 AM

JohnTheAthiest

What this douchebag really means to say is that it is ok for Christains to torture Muslims because the Muslims are fools with irrational beliefs.

Also, from a practical standpoint, all torture accomplishes is to make the person who is being tortured say whatever he thinks will stop the torture...doesn't matter if it's true or not.

4/1/2009 10:44:11 AM

Keep fstdt pure

Methinks Freboy's commentwould look good on ctstdt.

Al Qaeda was behind 9/11.
Al Qaeda was in Afghanistan and invasion was very effective in fighting it. No-one said it was in Iraq because it wasn't and that wasnt the rationale used for invasion. (Possible ownership of WMD was which Iraq had bragged about having but had all been previously destroyed by previous action).

While torture may be unreliable in many contexts there are imo some where it is defensible, such as if an individual knows where a bomb is planted that could kill thousands.

4/6/2009 1:05:58 AM

EvoPagan

I'll wager you won't be saying that when it's you they have strapped down, jfreeman.

4/6/2009 3:43:27 AM

Ebon

You are wrong. In every way.

8/17/2012 3:19:11 PM



Torture doesn't bring intelligence, it just brings the answer you want to have, or the answer the tortured thinks you want.

If you want baseless confessions, torture is perfect!

8/18/2012 8:32:01 AM
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