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With the war against white Christianity by the secular left, we all know that openly offending Christians is not only accepted, but has almost become celebrated in this country.

At the same time we also know that had this offended a certain other religion with a tendency for aggression, then everything would be done to avoid any offence.


SystemF, BBC News 59 Comments [5/26/2010 5:24:58 AM]
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#1161170
Scooby71

a) I'm not overly keen on black, yellow, or pink Christianity either

b) No, I'm quite happy to criticise Islamic ideas as well - this may lead to offense.

5/26/2010 5:28:31 AM
#1161171


Be it Jewish, Christian or Islamic nuttery, I will gladly chime in and criticize. Don't like that? Then don't listen.

5/26/2010 5:29:15 AM
#1161172
Mat

Yeah but you're not threatening to kill people over it which, frankly, makes you the better religion (though being the better religion is a lot like being the least rapey paedophile)

5/26/2010 5:29:31 AM
#1161176
FSMpirate

No, fuck islam with a pig dick.

You've been fighting for centuries to see who has the better imaginary friend. You're BOTH fairytale worshipping retardeds.

5/26/2010 5:30:21 AM
#1161178
Reverend Jeremiah

With the war against white Christianity by the secular left, we all know that openly offending Christians is not only accepted, but has almost become celebrated in this country.
I was unaware that Christianity was "white"? I thought it was invented in the middle east? The rest is nothing but shit talking, having nothing to do with reality
At the same time we also know that had this offended a certain other religion with a tendency for aggression, then everything would be done to avoid any offence.
Wow..feeling persecuted are we? Did you pay attention to the debate centered around the new Mosque going up near ground zero? Never heard a congregation of a Christian church have to promise over and over again that they will not be terrorists and other SPECIAL promise that they had to succumb too..read up on it..I bet you will have no problem with THEM being persecuted, as long as YOU are doing the persecuting.

5/26/2010 5:31:28 AM
#1161183
Higgs Boson

Look, you may have a point that people are feeling increasingly comfortable criticising Christianity these days - but to claim that Islam somehow gets a free ride is delusory. Many Muslims find themselves viewed with suspicion and negativity simply by walking down the street in many western countries, which I imagine is probably a more unpleasant experience than having your religion mocked.

But even so, Islam is criticised and mocked regularly. Even if it is not with the regularity that Christianity is made fun of, it is evident that the criticisms that ARE made of Islam are causing more upset and anger from Muslims than criticism of Christianity is causing in Christians. So it would seem, at least...

Can someone with a degree in psychology please help me to understand why there seems to be a part of the human psyche that makes one salivate over the idea that they are persecuted? Some Christians seem to get an almost erotic pleasure out of declaring how oppressed they are... in the face of all evidence to the contrary.

5/26/2010 5:33:33 AM
#1161188
Tolpuddle Martyr

White Christianity? A religion reputedly started by a brown-skinned Palestinian Jew is white? How exactly?

Edit: Islam, Zoroastrian, Christian, Voudun or Judaism. Imaginary skydaddies are imaginary skydaddies and delusions are delusions.

5/26/2010 5:35:21 AM
#1161196
Reverend Jeremiah

"Can someone with a degree in psychology please help me to understand why there seems to be a part of the human psyche that makes one salivate over the idea that they are persecuted? Some Christians seem to get an almost erotic pleasure out of declaring how oppressed they are... in the face of all evidence to the contrary"

Im not a psyche, but I bet if you looked up "battered wife syndrome" it would lead you in the right direction. I think they get their love of persecution from dogmas that claim if they are being persecuted that they are being persecuted for two reasons:

-They are being persecuted FOR Christ.

-Being persecuted is "proof" that their beliefs are the correct ones, because if their beliefs were not correct, then they would not be "persecuted".

5/26/2010 5:42:30 AM
#1161198
shadkat

All religions have problems, with plenty of things to mock. Christianity is just a larger target, unfortunately for you.

5/26/2010 5:44:55 AM
#1161207
Xotan

White Christianity? Are we in the right forum here?

But since it is here, where did Jesus or Paul ever even hint that Christianity was for whites? I'm not even sure if Jesus or Paul can be described as Caucasian, as if it mattered!

@ Scooby

Personally i worry about the candy-striped ones! LOL in a sarcastic vein.

@ Rev Jeremiah

There was a time that Christians were falling over themselves to get thrown to the lion in the arena. The church back them had to take steps to discourage self-immolation. And the Romans got very uneasy about it too, considering it quite unhealthy. So the persecution mania is not something new to fundyism.

5/26/2010 5:54:29 AM
#1161222
Doctor Fishcake

I probably qualify as "secular left".

I believe all 3 major Abrahamic religions are equally stupid.

And moreover I have never been anything but consistent on this point.

5/26/2010 6:04:48 AM
#1161230
carmen sandiego

I don't have a problem with religion in general, or any particular religion. I have a problem with idiocy (particularly when it effects others, including myself), bigotry, and evangelism.

5/26/2010 6:07:55 AM
#1161237
TGRwulf

Um, Christianity has nothing to do with race (and Jesus would of been middle eastern looking fyi). Also those who see the faults in one religon, usually see the faults in most or all religion.

5/26/2010 6:11:58 AM
#1161256
D Laurier.

There is no war against white christianity.


Finaly Someone who admits judaism's aggressive and violent nature.
I find that most jews take the religious command to kill everyone of non-biblical race... with a huge grain of salt. But the almost obsessive fear of criticising jews, is a sad thing.

So yes, Lets treat judaism just like any other religion. Condemn its absurditys and exesses. Demand its reformation. And hold it's members individualy accountable for the acts they individualy commit in the name of their religion.

5/26/2010 6:27:04 AM
#1161258
arensb

I take it this guy missed Everybody Draw Mohammed Day.

5/26/2010 6:30:17 AM
#1161263
Dan Onymous

I notice you avoid naming this 'certain other religion'. What's the matter? Scared?

5/26/2010 6:36:51 AM
#1161287


So, Martin Luther King, black as a blackberry, was not Christian in any way or shape. Neither is Jessie Jackson, for that matter.

5/26/2010 6:51:57 AM
#1161301
Doubting Thomas

I love how Christians play the persecution card when they often talk about how evil other religions are and how stupid atheists are.

5/26/2010 6:59:03 AM
#1161314
The L

Bullshit. There's a difference between a light-hearted joke at someone's expense, and going out of one's way to offend. Most people are ok with the former and condemn the latter.

@Xotan: I'm rather offended by the polka-dotted Christians, myself. And don't even get me started on the plaid-skinned ones! ;P

5/26/2010 7:06:53 AM
#1161330
aaa

Daily mail is over there, you silly twit.

5/26/2010 7:16:38 AM
#1161353
Evil European atheist

Christiannism is not persecuted. It is still the oppressor.

Islam and christiannism are the same when the topic is about crime and atrocities.

5/26/2010 7:38:45 AM
#1161401
Headache

At the same time we also know that had this offended a certain other religion with a tendency for aggression, then everything would be done to avoid any offence.

Really?






5/26/2010 9:03:47 AM
#1161412


We're waging war on you? Why was I not informed?

5/26/2010 9:14:19 AM
#1161418
Rumpshaker Slim

Wait, is he saying that christians should be more aggressive so people won't make fun of Jesus?

5/26/2010 9:21:28 AM
#1161458
JohnTheAtheist

My problem is not with christianity, it is with religious faith. Period. You all suck.

5/26/2010 10:14:03 AM
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