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God took Hitler and the Nazi's evil and used it in his perfect plan for the redemption of mankind. God doesn't intervene in men's free will, but he knows ahead of time what is going to happen so he uses our actions, whether good or bad, for the progress of his perfect plan. The Jews have to be in the land in the end times. WW2 helped to make that happen.

Chris, Rapture Forums 84 Comments [6/11/2010 12:02:20 PM]
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No One

And he had to kill millions of people to have it happen, eh?

6/11/2010 12:04:01 PM

Serph-no-Okami

So he is, in fact, interfering with our free will. And your omnipotent god didn't know of another way to get the Jews in their land without killing 6 million of them.

Yeah, ask me why I don't follow your religion again.

6/11/2010 12:04:03 PM

the_ignored

I remember that John Hagee had that view as well.

See their point #2. That's what got McCain to drop that fat fool.




6/11/2010 12:19:09 PM

Mr Blur

Your god is even madder than you are.

6/11/2010 12:23:10 PM

Zeus Almighty

Blah, blah, blah, Hitler, blah, Nazi, blah blahdee blahdee, God, blah blah blah, end times, bladdeedeebleep, WW2, blah, Jews, blah.

6/11/2010 12:23:49 PM

the old firm

You know what, if this are the "mysterious ways" in which God works, I don't want his help.
Geez, this reinterpretation gives "Collateral Damage" a hole new meaning. And not in a good way.

6/11/2010 12:27:10 PM

aaa

Retcons: Now with 50 percent more godwin.

6/11/2010 12:32:22 PM

dionysus

So your god's way of doing that is to allow their systematic slaughter rather than just using his omnipotence to magick them all over to Israel? Your god is either a complete moron or a complete dickhead and you are both for worshiping him. Go fuck a landmine.

6/11/2010 12:33:15 PM

Doubting Thomas

So God allows evil to happen. That's all I needed to know.

6/11/2010 12:34:07 PM

Lucilius

How does it feel to worship evil, Chris? As I don't prostrate myself slavishly before anything, I've never known.

6/11/2010 12:48:11 PM

Just some guy

If this is how fundie god treats his "chosen people," we're all in deep doo-doo.


6/11/2010 12:51:46 PM

Jezebel's Evil Sister

With imaginary friends like that, who needs enemies?

Edit: With imaginary friends like that, Chris needs an enema ... because he's full of shit.

6/11/2010 12:53:58 PM

Old Viking

There are those who think God handled this in a somewhat ham-handed fashion. I always say, "Give him a break, he isn't all that bright."

6/11/2010 12:55:26 PM



Maybe if God hadn't set up Adam and Eve to fail in the first place then he wouldn't have had to go through all the trouble of redeeming mankind. Of course, if you really look at that story then you see just how imperfect the Christian god really is. I think the real hero in that story was the talking snake. At least the snake didn't lie, unlike God who blatantly did so which is what really pissed him off when he got caught.

6/11/2010 12:57:57 PM



"Go fuck a landmine."

dionysus wins 100 internets.

6/11/2010 1:01:49 PM



God doesn't intervene in men's free will, but he knows ahead of time what is going to happen

Then it's not free will. It's predetermined destiny.

6/11/2010 1:06:16 PM

MK

Wouldn't it have been just as easy for God to pick up every Jew and put them in Israel?

Just sayin'.

6/11/2010 1:12:14 PM

Arts_Myth

God doesn't intervene in men's free will, but he knows ahead of time what is going to happen, so he uses our actions, which are going to happen exactly as God has already known they will, for the progress of his perfect plan, which won't happen the way he knows ahead of time unless he uses our actions? Erm.

Yeah, and if shoot you in the head, I haven't commited murder, for I knew ahead of time that you were going to be killed that way with that gun, and so I just held the gun, pointed it at your head, and let the trigger be pulled by my finger just as it was always meant to happen.

Once again, an omniscient, omnipotent deity is rendered indistinguishable from chance and human nature.

6/11/2010 1:50:43 PM

Arts_Myth

Pete and RePete sitting on a fence,
Pete fell off; who was left...?

6/11/2010 2:08:07 PM

kuribo

you've heard the saying, "all it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing?" well, i say that all it takes for evil to flourish is for good gods to do nothing. a god that permits the wholesale slaughter of innocents is not good.

6/11/2010 2:26:22 PM

agentCDE

Excuses, excuses. "It's all part of the plan!" "God works in mysterious ways!" Yeah, or maybe your "omnipotent, omniscient" god is a powerless moron.

6/11/2010 2:31:30 PM



If God can’t intervene, how can he use any of our actions for this mysterious Plan of his? I mean, how is any of what happened attributable to God then?

6/11/2010 2:33:37 PM

TGRwulf

Wait, are you saying that God CAUSED the Holocaust??? Well I can honestly say fuck your God.

6/11/2010 3:07:43 PM

Bud

"#1166838
God doesn't intervene in men's free will, but he knows ahead of time what is going to happen

Then it's not free will. It's predetermined destiny."

Quoted for truth.

6/11/2010 3:21:21 PM

GigaGuess

You're aware Free Will and Precognition are mutually exclusive, right?

6/11/2010 3:52:19 PM
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