What I'm saying is that the supernatural(referring to all things supernatural) is a fact, and there are many people who beleive in the supernatural because they experiance it... you have no credibilty trying to show these supernatural thingfs false, becuase you have no experiances with the supernatural, you have never seen what others have, you aren't openminded to its existance(atheists are NOT 'freethinkers' they are bound in fantasy and their own comfort) and you have no ability to change reality or prove something that is real to not be real. You are a ***** who thinks he has authority to say what exists or does not exist. You are like the archie bunker of atheism. And you're bitter too.