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And what is that difference? Interestingly I'm actually discussing rape with another new poster as well. . . since the difference between rape and domination is 'consent', what gives consent? Attraction, just with animals and their mating rituals of sexual display - if you are attractive, good sperm, then it's not rape.

e_i-2, love-shy.com 180 Comments [7/13/2010 6:36:27 PM]
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#1180023
Chad28

I'm sure it helps, but it just doesn't guarantee.

7/13/2010 8:23:37 PM
#1180024
rubber chicken

Try that defence in court and even your own lawyer would tell you to fuck off.

7/13/2010 8:23:50 PM
#1180025
Boy Wonder

WHAT. Wow, okay, you know what gives consent? CONSENT. If she says, "yes," then consent is given.
If she says, "no," it's not like being hot with viable sperm is going to excuse you if you go for it anyway.

On a related note, it spooks me how much the LS kids hyper-rationalize every bit of everything with their weird sorta-science. Not that having rational ideas about the world around us is bad, but the theories they espouse are so wrong-headed and unscientific. Most of it seems to be based on antiquated social ideas, over-simplified views of complex notions and misinformed interpretations of sociology.

This asshole aside, it seems like half of the LS forum has a crackpot theory that is totally without evidence or merit and they use it to reinforce their very misinformed views.
Fschmidt seems to be the biggest offender of this with his way of tying every little thing women do back to the Fall of Western Civilization.

7/13/2010 8:27:42 PM
#1180027
Chad28

I'm sure it helps, but it just doesn't guarantee.

7/13/2010 8:30:24 PM
#1180035
Blasphemina

I determine consent. I determine whether you're attractive or not. Game over. You lose. Thanks for playing.

7/13/2010 9:04:05 PM
#1180042
emau99

[if you are attractive, good sperm, then it's not rape.]

WHAT.

7/13/2010 9:26:28 PM
#1180043
Canadia

Any forced sexual act on anyone by anyone for any reason is always rape.

7/13/2010 9:26:52 PM
#1180049
Swede

But, as attraction is in the eye of the beholder, attraction is too arbitrary to decide whether you are a rapist or not.
According to your "logic", only ugly people are sterile.

Oh, and it's not what gives consent, but who.
In nature it's often the female; males prance around showing their feathers and the female chooses the most promising one.
With humans both parties must give consent, otherwise it's rape.

"difference between rape and domination"? Are you into dominatrices? Mistress Lisa visits you often?

7/13/2010 9:54:19 PM
#1180054
Cid Highwind

Whenever I read something like this, I hope that it's just a troll being stupid, but sadly... in 99% of those cases, it isn't. :( How can anyone seriously say something like that?

7/13/2010 10:19:38 PM
#1180056
RevDG

who the fuck needs this explained to them?

you are a moron if you don't understand the difference between rape and sex.

lol this is real commonsense here, not like that fake shit that only creationists think is commonsense.

7/13/2010 10:41:15 PM
#1180057
stefan

Uh, I think you're misunderstanding this quote.

He's not trying to define consent. He's explaining why some people get consent and others do not.

7/13/2010 10:58:35 PM
#1180059
AIF

Hey dumbass,

In mammalian species the female selects the male by ALLOWING herself to be mounted. The male makes a display to make himself appear attractive, and sometimes runs off the competition.

7/13/2010 11:06:35 PM
#1180060
Wehpudicabok

I read it the way Stefan did, as "It's not rape if she consents, and she'll consent if you're attractive"--which, while shallow, is still much better than most loveshy posts. Now I'm not sure what he means...

7/13/2010 11:15:11 PM
#1180063


"what gives consent?"

I should hope everyone involved gives consent...

7/13/2010 11:19:26 PM
#1180077
Boy Wonder

@ Stefan

I read it that way initially, but that phrase at the end, "if you are attractive, good sperm, then it's not rape."
That pretty much convinced me otherwise.

If this is a mis-phrasing of an otherwise non-fundie (but still pretty shallow and glib) sentiment, then he reeeeeeeally needs to read over how his words sound before he posts them.

7/13/2010 11:45:58 PM
#1180083
Shadoboy

There is a difference between "Atractive" and "Atraction", moron.

7/14/2010 12:07:43 AM
#1180088
Jesus Klingon

Just kill yourself. You're not just a misogynist. You're also completely disconnected from reality.

7/14/2010 12:38:11 AM
#1180098
Kristine

Read the initial post, where e_i-2 talks about "How to Sexually Dominate a Woman". Either hilarious or seriously disturbed.

7/14/2010 12:52:26 AM
#1180103
ixolite

Sheesh, I read the rest of the thread.

You got to love it when an eternal virgin like him, whom women wouldn't even touch if he were the last man on the planet, thinks he knows best how women think and feel.

7/14/2010 12:56:35 AM
#1180112
C_V


one thing that strikes me as particularly sad is that this idiot talks as if all sex were good and satisfying. how desperate must one be to think rape is gratifying for anything other than one's own power trip.

7/14/2010 1:27:26 AM
#1180115
LDM

e_i-2 spoke to one "female friend" and thinks that makes him an expert on women. The OP was basically a rape instruction booklet.

"loveshy" is a misleading title, since what the men on that site want is about as far from love as you can get.



7/14/2010 1:49:24 AM
#1180120
mika

There are these things called words . Yes or No for example (oh and if a woman says "No" it doesn't mean she's secretly screaming "YES")

7/14/2010 2:24:31 AM
#1180122


Kill yourself.

7/14/2010 2:48:09 AM
#1180124
Tolpuddle Martyr

Empty inside trying to shock us because he's like, so hardcore you know. I guess if you're main claim to fame is being too shitscared to ask a girl out on a date you have to try pretty hard to be "rad".

7/14/2010 3:01:35 AM
#1180126
Murdin

Again - the problem of those guys aren't that they consider women as inferior to men in the hierarchy of human beings. It's that they do not consider women as human beings at all. That's a whole different degree of sick.

7/14/2010 3:37:27 AM
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