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what gives consent? Attraction
"Officer, the difference between theft and receiving a gift is consent! And what gives consent? Attraction! I was so attracted to the smartphone in the electronics store, so it's not shoplifting!"
3/16/2011 12:40:27 AM
Simple: all persons involved must all give clear consent. Otherwise it's rape.
If you're unsure; ask him or her.
If your partner wants to play domination games, s/he's probably rather explicit about it. Remember, those games often go both ways.
3/16/2011 1:12:49 AM
Woww. You must be having a REALLY hard time getting pussy if you have to campaign this hard to justify rape.
5/3/2011 5:40:48 AM
Oh and also, I highly doubt that you are an attractive man with good (if any) sperm.
5/3/2011 5:41:57 AM
Women aren't robots you can wind up to have sex with whenever you want to, they are human beings as well, just like *gasp* you are. DIAF, arsehole.
5/3/2011 11:33:49 AM
And given that love-shy members are all without exception a bunch of hideous repulsive nerds, then even if that malarky somehow WAS true, it's still rape if any of those fuckers go anywhere even NEAR A women.
6/20/2011 7:51:47 AM
7/27/2011 2:23:47 AM
Seeing as everyone made good points already about all the WTF, I'm just going to point out people find very different kinds of individuals attractive.
8/30/2011 4:08:59 PM
That's just sick, man.
12/12/2011 4:43:58 AM
And what determins attraction? The female. So the female can still be raped.
1/8/2012 6:17:41 PM
So if an attractive gay man decided to have sex with you against your will, it wouldn't be rape?
In most animal species, it's the females who decide which males they are going to mate with. Females have more to lose by picking the wrong mate, since a single male can mate with many females, but a female can only bear a limited number of offspring per reproductive cycle. If the female doesn't think a particular male is good enough for her, she's not going to mate with him and that's that.
1/9/2012 6:48:29 AM
"what gives consent?"
Not what; who, stupid. The person you want to have sex with gives consent, if he or she wants to have sex with you.
Lack of expressed consent means you do not have permission to have sex with that person.
You should always err on the side of caution; if you're not sure you have permission to have sex, then DON'T HAVE SEX!
1/9/2012 7:16:28 AM
Die In a Fucking Fire!
Yes, even the other possible meaning of this sentence would be appreciated.
So he knows what getting raped means.
4/15/2012 2:43:57 AM
Blue the Thief
I have a lighter. If I mail it to you, will you please die in the resulting fire?
4/15/2012 3:10:29 AM
I really hope next life shits like Stick have to live through Love-Shy themselves, no point me trying to explain as it's a hell you can only understand if you have to live through it yourself.
4/28/2012 6:48:26 PM
OK, for the terminally dense: If your sex partner doesn't say some variation of "Yes", "please" or "FUCK ME NOW", they have not given their consent.
8/28/2012 11:37:34 PM
@ixolite: OK, I can tell you that as a self-disgusted rape fetishist, basically every single thing on that list he wrote makes me quite hot and bothered (the major exception being * have orgasms that will leave her sore for days, because pain for anybody is a major turnoff for me). The difference is that I know this is just a kink, maybe to be played out in some roleplaying thing with consent if I ever actually have sex. This guy is projecting - extremely fucking hard. He seems to have deluded himself into the belief that all women behave like he imagines them in his fantasies. That's what makes him fundie - he is, like all fundies, convinced that his inner fantasy is what reality is actually like.
Two years too late, perhaps, but that's my reading on this argument. The guy definitely deserves his place here.
10/5/2012 2:06:11 PM
having a female animal in-season and shouting to her chosen male animal "do me now big boy" is very different than rape.
10/5/2012 4:25:40 PM
Consent is not attraction. Consent is permission. The girl's body is not yours, therefore you must first request her permission before having sex, and if she says no, then go away. It's as simple as that.
11/24/2012 8:55:04 PM
I would like to shove a stick of dynamite up your ass, but then I'd have to go near your mouth, and that's just not worth it.
11/29/2012 6:27:38 PM
I have had a prognostication. I forsee that this guy will find it hard to get a date even if he pays for it.
Have you ever seen a female parrot chase off a male that she does not like. Its not pretty.
11/29/2012 7:03:41 PM
"All I ever wanted was her sweet, sweet can...."
--Homer Simpson (Sort of)
11/29/2012 10:50:21 PM
We live in a world where there is no real life for older single people. The only way older single people survive is because they have at least had SOME sort of dating life. If this guy is a late 20s,30s,40s involuntary virgin or near virgin then he is living a fate worse than death so it's no wonder he's basically mentally snapped and is spouting rubbish about rape online.
-Everyone in the world except maybe 1 person in a million is born with certain basic human instincts like the ability to learn how to flirt and make people laugh. If you were one of the 1 in a million unlucky souls born without these then the above paragraph is guaranteed to be your fate.
-If you are mids 20s + and have never, or hardly ever, had a date you are guaranteed to stay that way. Don't believe me? Google "would you date a virgin".
And NO you DON'T understand just because you've been rejected a few times, suffer social anxiety, depression, are physically unattractive or whatever. You've still had/have bfs and gfs so shut the fuck up.
1/18/2013 4:38:00 AM
Strick go to hell
Read through that piece of low life shit Strick's comments. It basically holds the belief that people suffering from social anxiety or social ineptness should kill themselves. It's been told that it's views could drive someone to suicide but it actually WANTS to do that. And yet everyone is focusing on the original commenter as being the only disgusting "fundie" view point.
1/18/2013 5:14:44 AM
Strick go to hell
Strick has clearly never had this problem itself and yet it feels qualified to rank it on the grand scale of problems along with a lot of other problems that it has undoubtedly also never had.
The world would be a lot better if people at least admitted when they don't understand something.
I'm lucky enough to not suffer from substance addiction- but I am able to accept that just because I don't understand it doesn't mean it isn't a real problem.
I certainly don't tell people that they deserve to die just because they dare to mention a problem that I don't understand.
1/18/2013 5:25:53 AM
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