Quote# 74465

This was drawn by an Aztec shaman (witch doctor) in the 1500s, depicting one of the White Gods (one of the white men) who came to the primitive Aztec savages as a teacher.

The white man is having his beating heart cut out of his bleeding body by an Aztec shaman.

Nothing has changed since then!

Poor Richard, White News Now Forums 25 Comments [7/16/2010 8:51:57 AM]
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Doubting Thomas

Nothing has changed since then!

Except the fact that Aztecs don't exist any more, and it's probably been a long time since someone had their heart cut out of their chest.

7/16/2010 8:53:37 AM

Um ... the two dudes having the cardiectomy seem to be the same colour as everybody else in that picture ...

7/16/2010 8:55:01 AM

Agnostic Jew

The Spanish came to the Aztecs as teachers?! BWAHAHA! History Fail!

They came to the New World seeking Gold, Glory, and God. Education wasn't part of the plan.

7/16/2010 9:16:16 AM


You have got to be fucking kidding me.

7/16/2010 9:29:53 AM

Churchy LaFemme

If you mean white men thinking that everyone who doesn't look, think and act like them is a savage, yeah, nothing has changed. The only "education" the Spanish tried to give the Aztecs was forcible conversion to Christianity.

7/16/2010 9:32:06 AM

Wow, this dude could really use some education. And a slap maybe. That much stupid shouldn't go unpunished.

7/16/2010 9:35:24 AM

Rumpshaker Slim

What fucking history book has this asshole been reading?

7/16/2010 1:34:07 PM

Kat S.

Nothing has changed since then? Are you meaning to tell me that there are human sacrifices happening right now in Mexico?

If so, how come you've told no one until posting this? I'm sure that human sacrificing is illegal in Mexico, so the local governments would have done something about it.

7/16/2010 1:51:03 PM

I read about the afterlife

Except that the Aztecs don't exist any more. And after all the white people did to the Aztecs and the Mayans -- I don't blame them for drawing that. Smallpox isn't a walk in the park without modern medicine.

7/16/2010 1:54:52 PM

D Laurier

Except that there are no White Gods, Witch doctors, or white men in the picture.
Only two Aztec priests of the high god, sacrificing another Aztec to said god.
And that ritual has been abbandoned for over 350 years.

7/16/2010 3:18:10 PM


7/16/2010 3:33:47 PM


If nothing has changed, you should be able to find a more recent picture, idiot.

7/16/2010 9:37:14 PM


"If nothing has changed, you should be able to find a more recent picture, idiot."

7/16/2010 11:06:07 PM


Without labels, how can you tell they're white men? Is it the loincloths?

7/17/2010 1:43:54 AM

He looks exatly the same colour as the Aztecs actually...

7/17/2010 3:22:15 AM

Percy Q. Shunn

I can't point out anything that the others haven't, so I'll just LOL. (because you're an idiot)

7/17/2010 4:55:05 AM

For those who say that the Aztecs don't exist anymore, well, technically, you'd be wrong. The Nahuatl tribes in Mexico are the last descendants of the Aztecs. But, if you're referring to the Aztec civilization, then yes, it doesn't exist anymore.

And note to Poor Richard, the Nahua(tl) don't practice human sacrifice anymore. Neither do Mexicans as a whole. And the white explorers had no interest in educating the Aztecs; they only cared about converting them to Christianity, killing them, and taking their gold. FAIL.

7/17/2010 6:37:15 AM


Teachers, conquerors, it makes little difference to you does it Poor Richard?

7/17/2010 7:46:51 AM


Teachers, conquerors, it makes little difference to you does it Poor Richard?

7/17/2010 7:47:39 AM


Oddly, Mel Gibson did not include the butchery of Whites in Apocalypto- which is a great movie nevertheless. I see it as an indictment of all religion, though I reckon that's not what he intended.

7/17/2010 3:58:03 PM


IIRC for the most part, human sacrifice had been abolished before the Spanish settlers came around. The Emperor associated with Quetzalcoatl (They tended to interchange Gods and Emperors as the Egyptians did) was very much against human sacrifice. And the people who WERE sacrificed to the gods were held in extremely high esteem - it was a huge honour, and not one they'd give an outsider or an enemy.

7/17/2010 4:41:28 PM

The human sacrifice was necessary, or else the sun would be eaten by the Tsitse-Mime

7/17/2010 4:42:12 PM

Aztects didn´t have any shamans(they had priests) but they did have copists and painters who painted those things before the white Spanish guys arrived and didn´t bother to think that, whims of destiny, a redneck idiot would interpret it in a fairly freely way 500 years later.

8/1/2010 12:54:02 PM


Bull schnike!

8/1/2012 11:25:34 AM

The guy is white?, or just they ran out of pigments?(or you're making this shit up)

9/30/2012 6:38:43 AM

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