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#1179189
Neith
Although the Holocaust did happen, your own reasoning should lead you to conclude that Christianity is false.
7/11/2010 7:10:34 PM
#1179197
Neith, gymnastic chick didn't say that the holocuast didn't happen, just not that she's certain it did. And for all you know, she could be an atheist.
7/11/2010 7:23:36 PM
#1181667
Papabear
Believe what you like, but denying the holocaust will show you to be ignorant and too lazy or stupid to do the minimal research to cure your ignorance.
7/17/2010 3:39:24 PM
#1181674
Somebody strap the gymnastic chick down and torture her horribly until she confesses to belief in the Holocaust.
Then it might resemble the Inquisition.
7/17/2010 4:01:02 PM
#1181692
Captain Klamydia
Actually 6 million people were abducted by aliens and turned into ants and beer they weren't murdered by Nazi's that'd just be ridiculous, right?
7/17/2010 6:01:56 PM
#1181699
Percy Q. Shunn
Are you really bendy?
*fapfapfapfapfap*
7/17/2010 7:31:08 PM
#1181723
Reverend Jeremiah
I'm against it being a crime...but it obviously happened..these European countries need to respect freedom of speech, even for the nay sayers....
7/17/2010 9:05:36 PM
#1181731
Shadow Phoenix
Holocaust denial's a crime somewhere? That's bad precedent, but I can't say it's not coming from a good place. Here's some edits of the original post.
"Guys, they made it a crime to discriminate against people based on race/gender/orientation. If that's right, then why do they force people to not discriminate?"
"I used to believe that the finding of North America really happened. This relentless quest to cram this history down people's throats is almost beginning to resemble the Spanish Inquisition. I didn't expect this at all!"
7/17/2010 9:19:56 PM
#1181734
aaa
It's quite obvious that this Holocaust happened.
7/17/2010 9:49:24 PM
#1181762
werewolf
But, what if the Inquisition didn't happen? Where does that leave us?
7/17/2010 11:55:08 PM
#1181782
G.Fieendish
Re: ShadowPhoenix's post
Holocaust Denial is a crime in Germany,& Austria as I recall, as the Right Wing British historian David Irving, found out to his cost, a couple of years ago, after someone recorded him addressing a Neo-Nazi gathering in Austria, as a key speaker...
7/18/2010 12:59:08 AM
#1181787
Haseen
Countless witnesses, physical evidence, and Nazi records would beg to differ. Denial is a crime in some places because it's deliberate misinformation that could allow history to repeat itself if it got out of control. People can be unbelievably stupid*, so as unlikely as it is for denial to take off, it could be possible.
*for example, Republicans would only be a fringe minority if people were smart enough to vote in their own self-interest. Also, the fact that there's a "debate" between the creation myth and evolution.
7/18/2010 1:18:40 AM
#1181789
Davros
I've been to Auschwitz myself. I've seen the Gas Chambers, I've seen the Ovens. Are you saying they put all that up to fool a young ten year old and his family?
7/18/2010 1:22:50 AM
#1181802
Davros
@Reverend Jeremiah
We do have respect for freedom of Speech (Article 5 of the Basic Law of the Federal Republic of Germany), but Holocaust denial isn't illegal on it's own, it's covered by a much wider law that forbids Hate speech and so on, as
Volksverhetzung
7/18/2010 2:21:52 AM
#1181809
Evil European Atheist
Denying Holocaust is a crime in French Law to.
I have visited a camp, the Struthof, ans seen the crematorium when I was 6.
Since, the only idea that holocaust Denial and apologist could exist make me very angry.
7/18/2010 3:23:40 AM
#1181821
Agnostic Jew
My grandmother is a Holocaust survivor. Yes, it happened.
7/18/2010 6:25:45 AM
#1181832
They teach you about the Holocaust in the hope that learning about how a group were demonised and subsequently systematically slaughtered will prevent future generations from allowing such an atrocity to ever happen again. The Inquisition was an attempt to root out religious dissenters who were often tortured and sometimes executed. You may not recognise the difference between learning history and brutal regimes of torture and murder. In which case I have to ask: where the hell did you go to school?
7/18/2010 7:18:56 AM
#1181977
Allegory for Jesus
The Holocaust was a hoax! The Reptilians were on in it. They told me after the Illuminati did 9-11. I know that none of these are lies because I have just had the idea that 9-11 was done by Muslim terrorists, that the Illuminati aren't an evil world wide conspiracy, and that Reptilian aliens don't exist CRAMMED down my throat for so long now, it just gets kind of suspicious. Ya know? If they were really "facts" then why would people bother mentioning them to me? Yep, they're hiding something...
7/18/2010 11:50:47 AM
#1182052
Giardano Bruno
I lived in Israel and saw the tattoos.
The reason we push the knowledge of it is because we want to stop it happening again.
7/18/2010 2:38:28 PM
#1182178
Kat S.
The reasons it is re-enforced and Holocaust denial is outlawed are primarily because it was a henious event that truly happened and must never be forgoten or be repeated, and the people who deny it now are the same types Hitler and his anti-semetic henchmen were that want to ultimately demonize then irradicate the Jews from the planet. Also, outlawing holocaust denial prevents holocaust deniers a chance to influence a large audience into their persuation, because we all know, well hopefully, what happened when the Nazis took political control of a nation.
7/18/2010 8:52:29 PM
#1182895
Vince
Crime what now? who's cramming anything? The only reason someone would go off the deep end about proving the holocaust is if faced with someone clinically insane enough to not believe it.
7/19/2010 9:59:11 PM
#1183079
Textbook misapplication of reverse psychology.
7/20/2010 7:29:21 AM
#1183269
Table Rock
...the Inquisition.
What a show!
Here we go!
7/20/2010 2:40:44 PM
#1183358
Doubting Thomas
Where have they ever made it a crime to not believe in the Holocaust? I know it Germany it's against the law to spout Holocaust-denier nonsense, but they can't force people to believe it happened.
And anyway, it's interesting to notice how the only people denying the Holocaust happened are the same people who wouldn't mind if it did.
7/20/2010 7:29:47 PM
#1183513
Justanotheratheist
Nobody is being "forced" to believe that the Holocaust happened (unlike countless millions who are forced to swallow religious crap, but that's another story).
The Holocaust is not a doctrine. It is a crime against humanity of almost unbelieveable proportions. It is out of respect to its victims, and out of a desire to never have something like it happen again, that Holocaust denial is a criminal offence in some countries.
The Inquisition, on the other hand, was put in place purely for the purpose of perpetuation a doctrine.
7/21/2010 2:41:07 AM
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