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In Houston, these MARKETs sells meat that was butchered according to their tradition, part of which is shouting the battle cry. The thing is shouted at the slaughterhouse. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halal

Islam is becoming more and more prevalent in our society; sadly there are some things we can't fight. They are allowed to have their grocery stores anywhere they want. The women are allowed to wear the "getup" when I'm out shopping. I dislike seeing a big sign saying "Halal Meats" knowing what that means, and seeing these places very busy makes me even more nauseous. They have a perfect right to have their religion.

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I can say that, I am proud to say I have been persecuted for evangelism, shot in the leg with a BB gun, and 2 attempted robberies just last year. I have been screamed at, hated on, and thrown off 2 buses because I offered the driver a Bible. Just in the last year. But I don't think everyone is out to get me and label me a hater as a result.

Acts5:41, Rapture Ready 77 Comments [7/24/2010 6:43:15 PM]
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Nowonmai

You are a hater, and if anyone else was handing out Qur'ans, they also would be kicked off the buses, as you were.

Halal, like Kosher, just means 'clean'. Probably why salmonella and E coli is almost never heard of in Jewish and Muslim diets.

7/26/2010 3:05:29 AM

Mister Spak

Those who live by hate will die by hate.

7/26/2010 5:18:40 AM

Doubting Thomas

The women are allowed to wear the "getup" when I'm out shopping.

Allowed to? So you think there should be laws prohibiting certain types of dress? I'm sure you wouldn't complain if you were forced to wear a hijab in public?

And you owe me a new hypocrisy meter for complaining about Muslims being "allowed" to have food markets & wear traditional garb and then talking about how persecuted you are.

7/26/2010 7:11:55 AM

ssbn732

fuck you, fuck your stupidity, fuck your outdated religion, and please an hero. kthxbai

7/26/2010 8:09:42 AM

Moondog

I should be relieved that this RR nut won't be living in my neighborhood. There's a few halal markets within an easy walk. One's near a Brazilian restauraunt and one's near a Haitian market. oh no! diversity bad!

7/26/2010 8:32:32 AM

Sabre A

"Moondog

I should be relieved that this RR nut won't be living in my neighborhood. There's a few halal markets within an easy walk. One's near a Brazilian restauraunt and one's near a Haitian market. oh no! diversity bad! "

Sir, I love you in the most satanic way possible, as you have hit the nail right on the head.

7/26/2010 8:35:47 AM

Anon-e-moose

"In Houston, these MARKETs sells meat that was butchered according to their tradition, part of which is shouting the battle cry. The thing is shouted at the slaughterhouse."

So? In my locale, there's a street where there's a Halal butchers, an African Meat shop, and a conventional butchers shop. I've never heard of anyone complaining about such (they've never had protests and/or had their windows smashed). Do you complain about the fact that there exists Kosher butchers, whose practices are as near as dammit to those of Halal butchers? If your answer to that question is the only one possible, you've just destroyed your own argument.

"Islam is becoming more and more prevalent in our society; sadly there are some things we can't fight. They are allowed to have their grocery stores anywhere they want. The women are allowed to wear the "getup" when I'm out shopping. I dislike seeing a big sign saying "Halal Meats" knowing what that means, and seeing these places very busy makes me even more nauseous. They have a perfect right to have their religion."

In London, The Arabic district (with the main mosque located there) isn't far from Golders Green, the big Jewish section (which includes the bulk of the UK's Hasidic Jews). There's Halal foodshops and Glatt Kosher foodshops, delis etc respectively (even an Iranian restaurant in Golders Green). I've seen girls there wearing the Hijab at bus stops, alongside Jewish boys wearing the Yarmulke; indeed even, dare I say it... talking to each other??!!!111ONE111eleventyone1?. I've never felt nauseous while I was there, even though I'm an Atheist, so what's your problem Acts5:41?

7/26/2010 8:45:59 AM

Anon-e-moose

(Part the Deux):

"I can say that, I am proud to say I have been persecuted for evangelism, shot in the leg with a BB gun, and 2 attempted robberies just last year. I have been screamed at, hated on, and thrown off 2 buses because I offered the driver a Bible. Just in the last year. But I don't think everyone is out to get me and label me a hater as a result."

Pics or it didn't happen. Besides, why are you carping about your 'persecution'? Remember:

Matthew 5:44 (KJV): 'But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you'

And after all, you can't justify being a True Christian™ if you're never persecuted. Can you?

7/26/2010 8:47:00 AM

Brianisha

Intolerant bigot. Oh and christians are no better than muslims.

7/26/2010 9:18:31 AM

Reverend Jeremiah

I agree, christians have a perfect right to their religion, but not in place were it will offend me, like on signs in public. I dislike seeing a big sign saying "Summer Bible school", knowing what tha means makes me even more nauceous.

With that said, I dont mind Christians..as long as they act atheist in public.

7/26/2010 10:10:54 AM

LadyJafaria

@BobsOldSocks: The non-religious meat industry isn't a paragon of humane treatment either. While I'm not an extremist who thinks that meat shouldn't be eaten at all, I do think that the industry could do better in their treatment of farm animals and that it's difficult to find truly ethically produced animal products in the U.S.

Sorry to puncture another FSTDT delusion about religion being the source of all bad things in the world.

7/26/2010 11:57:59 AM

dionysus

@LadyJafaria

Sorry to puncture another FSTDT delusion about religion being the source of all bad things in the world.

No problem at all. In fact, I think that blaming religion for everything is both naive and counter-productive. It completely ignores the real problem which is dogmatism and that can be religious but it can also be nationalistic, political, or based on any other ideology you can think of. That being said, religion doesn't really help matters and combining outdated holy books with literalism is a recipe for disaster.

7/26/2010 2:22:26 PM

BobsOldSocks

@LadyJafaria

"The non-religious meat industry isn't a paragon of humane treatment either."

I have no argument with that but having witnessed first hand the "non-religious" slaughter of a cow (the primary school I went to decided that it would be a fun day out for 11 year-olds to visit the local abattoir), which involved the stunning of the animal with a bolt gun before it was killed, and comparing it to documentary evidence (filmed with the full knowledge and consent of those involved) of halal and kosher slaughter in which, as I'm sure you know, the animal is conscious while its throat is cut, I know which method I'd choose for my own end.

"I do think that the industry could do better in their treatment of farm animals..."

Again, no arguments from me on that.

"...and that it's difficult to find truly ethically produced animal products in the U.S."

I'm in the UK and I don't know how our respective standards differ.

"Sorry to puncture another FSTDT delusion about religion being the source of all bad things in the world."

Yet again I wouldn't disagree; my haemorrhoids weren't caused by religion. At least, I don't think so.

7/26/2010 2:48:25 PM

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7/26/2010 7:15:10 PM



Meh, dont really care how animals are slaughtered. Didnt really like seeing those videos of them jumping on the chickens but other than that, halal slaughter or putting them through the saws, dont really care. The animal's gotta die for me to able to eat its meat. Its just a lame excuse to say that the animal needs to be stunned first and then slaughtered. By that thinking, let's stun people before killing them so they dont feel it. Either dont eat meat or dont be a hypocrite.

7/27/2010 10:39:49 AM

Brenz

Halal meat's delicious! You're not going to have any? More for me then.

Life is more fun when you don't reject people just because they're different from you.

Also, I'm willing to bet anything you got thrown off because the bus driver was trying to pay attention to the road and you wouldn't leave him/her alone.

7/27/2010 12:09:56 PM

Hertzyscowicz

So, you agree that publicly flaunting your religion sucks? I do believe we are making progress here.

7/29/2010 2:33:41 PM

WeaponXL

Halal meat is a problem because the animals suffer greatly. But going on about how you hand out Bibles and publicly advocate for evangelism is more annoying than a sign that says "Halal Meat". I don't think the poster is even aware of her own hypocrisy.

7/29/2010 3:43:29 PM



Personally I think that whole "halal/kosher" thing is horrific; the primary reason behind this method of butchering is to commemorate Abraham's act of devotion to God of cutting his son's throat, whom God, in his "infinite mercy", later changed into a sheep (Haa, haa, made you cry Abraham, SURPRISE!!! LOLOLROFLS). So pardon my language, but fuck the animal pain for a second and think about it; this is to celebrate human sacrifice by a bronze age psychopath, still practiced in the 21st century by nearly 2 billion people. But as typical of religiophiles; our Jewish/Muslim friends are always trying to come up with ridiculous pseudo-scientific reasons and alleged health benefits, while both shamelessly willing to make an exception for hunted meat.

Nonetheless, "Acts5:41" is a bigoted idiot who him/herself probably attends a weekly congregation where they hope to make up for their ill deeds by drinking symbolic human blood, and eating the metaphoric flesh of a long dead holy carpenter. So, y'know, pot, kettle, shiny mirror, etc.

7/29/2010 4:39:45 PM

elphada

See, the thing is they don't try to ram the Koran down my throat and they could care less about what I wear when I'm shopping. You should try Middle-East food. It's damn good.
A BB gun? LMAO! You've got to be kidding me. We have mosquitoes and horseflies down here that have more bite than a BB gun.

7/31/2010 9:17:07 AM

Burning Stake

But I don't think everyone is out to get me and label me a hater as a result.

No, you just want the attention it gives you from your fellow evangelisists.

BUT, if this guy really does believe that not everyone is out to get him...huge props to him, and maybe even a hope that he'll get out of it eventually, as well.

7/31/2010 9:05:49 PM



By that logic, you are more of an Asian due to...

Your shirt is from Taiwan
Your wrist watch is from Hong-Kong
Your coumputer is assembled in india and parts made in Japan.
Everything else you have is made in China

BOW DOWN TO GLORIOUS ASIAN MASTER RACE, MOOSLEM DON'T KNOW DIDDLY SQUAT

8/3/2010 8:48:15 AM

Steely

Why is it that fundies are so threatened by the concept of specialty food? I mean, I'm a Christian, but I still occasionally like to eat Kosher foods (pickles come to mind). Maybe you should try the Halal Meats, it might be pretty good.

But seriously. All this fuss over what people want to wear and what food they eat? Get over it, people are different than you and that's not going to change.

Also, it's perfectly reasonable to throw someone off a bus when that person in question is trying to distract the bus driver by giving them something. Or, you know, maybe it's kind of annoying when you harass people. I don't know, just a thought.

1/24/2013 10:00:35 PM



Halal, Battle cry ? wut ?

dont they just recite prayers ?
mow I am picturing a cowering cow facing a turbaned dervish with a scimitar.


1/24/2013 10:30:16 PM

Swede

Halal is fairly similar to Kosher.

Islam is becoming more and more accepted in society, that's why you see more of it. I bet Americans are allowed to have their grocery stores anywhere they want too, and American women are allowed to wear the "getup" when Muslims are out shopping.

You were shot in the leg with a BB gun for the sole reason of your religion? In what way are robberies linked with religion? I bet you did more than just offer the driver a Bible? Would you have accepted a Quran from him?

Regardless, that is not persecution, dearie, that is just differing opinions. Persecution is to not be able to get or hold a job or a home, to be thrown in jail, to be forced to marry a person of a different religion/gender/sexuality, to be killed or watch your spouse or children being killed.

1/25/2013 4:03:23 AM
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