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lions are felines, true.
lions and cats evolved from reptiles or others, false.

there is something called to adapt with the environment. color/nature/habits may change with the climate and other reasons. but the animal will remain the same.

let's take an example:
you take care of a tiger in your house. and with time, she loses his stripes. she will look all orange and white. but she is still a tiger. she will give birth to tiger cubs and they will grow to be tigers. if they continue like that. after a hundred years they will always be tigers... you can call them cats or big cats. but they won't grow horns or wings.

mythological creatures play a lot with evolutionists minds. the likes of Minotaur and pegasus are behind all this evolution hoax..

FullWhiteMoon, deviantART 66 Comments [7/24/2010 12:36:41 PM]
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Bobby

"she loses his stripes"

Fail

"there is something called to adapt with the environment"

Huh?

"mythological creatures play a lot with evolutionists minds. the likes of Minotaur and pegasus are behind all this evolution hoax."

Very true. I know I, as well as all the other people I know that believe in evolution spend a lot of time thinking about how we will soon have minotaurs and pegasus. That makes sense.

You can't even get mad at someone this dumb, I just feel bad for him/her/it

7/24/2010 12:41:43 PM



Why do really dumb people think they're clever?

7/24/2010 12:46:01 PM





I may be a little new to these boards but are the constant unbelievably retarded comments like this a joke and if not how can ppl be so uneducated and stupid?.

7/24/2010 12:47:46 PM

shadkat

I...um...is this even English? It looks English, but I suspect this is really a foreign language.

7/24/2010 12:50:39 PM

breakerslion

@1184626:

Dumb people are too dumb to know they're dumb.

Dumb people have trouble counting beyond 12, therefore they can't understand the concept of change over millions of years.

Dumb people are too dumb to understand that other people aren't dumb. Therefore, they project their own lack of understanding upon others.

But on the whole, they are happier in their blissful ignorance than smart people are. Go figure.

7/24/2010 1:06:59 PM



You should have to pass an IQ test to breed.

7/24/2010 1:10:38 PM

Alencon

And we let them vote. We're fucked.

7/24/2010 1:14:13 PM





The Minotaur and pegasus are actually part of a religion, ok a greek one but still a religion.

In fact the Minotaur was said to be slain by Theseus who was aparantly the son of a greek god.

Pegasus was said to be a child of Poseidon...another greek GOD fyi..

lol.


7/24/2010 1:16:26 PM

aaa

You've been fed so much bullshit that it's oozing to my keyboard.

7/24/2010 1:22:08 PM

BobsOldSocks

"lions are felines, true.
lions and cats evolved from reptiles or others, false."

Evidence? You don't seriously expect anyone to take your uneducated, ignorant opinion as fact without some robust supporting evidence, do you?

"there is something called to adapt with the environment. color/nature/habits may change with the climate and other reasons."

Sounds helluva lot like evolution to me.

"but the animal will remain the same."

The animal changes but it remains the same? Uh-huh. Oh, and evolution takes place within *populations* not individuals.

"you take care of a tiger in your house. and with time, she loses his stripes."

And why on Earth would that happen?

"she will look all orange and white. but she is still a tiger."

Duh!

"she will give birth to tiger cubs and they will grow to be tigers."

Is there some point to this?

"if they continue like that. after a hundred years they will always be tigers."

Yup. There will be very little change in allele frequencies in a population of tigers in a hundred years. Why would you think otherwise?

"... you can call them cats or big cats. but they won't grow horns or wings."

And no one apart from a raving religionist loon would expect them to.

7/24/2010 1:34:47 PM

John_in_Oz

Please cite the bit about Minotaurs in "The Origin of Species"?

7/24/2010 1:35:49 PM

Bi The Way

1) Tigers won't lose their stripes in they're lifetime.

2) You fail to realize the irony of comparing science to mythology in order to defend your mythology.

But regardless, let's look at that adaption thing you mentioned. Small changes right like color or size or speed or even longer hair. Let's have an experiment with small changes:

CAT
COT
COG
DOG

Look. Cat just now turned into dog.

RED
BED
BEE
SEE
SEA
TEA

All viable words that just had a minor adaption, and slowly changed into new words, even changed from an adjective to a noun. Now If you can wrap your head around it, Let's imagine that each of those changes happens after about ten thousand lifetimes.
Evolution.

7/24/2010 1:36:39 PM

BobsOldSocks

@#1184626

"Why do really dumb people think they're clever?"

Dunning–Kruger effect:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger_effect

7/24/2010 1:37:10 PM

Philbert McAdamia

@#1184628
I may be a little new to these boards but are the constant unbelievably retarded comments like this a joke and if not how can ppl be so uneducated and stupid?.

Look up Poe's Law. Enjoy.

7/24/2010 2:00:54 PM

Olivia

On the bright side, this is DeviantArt, which drastically increases the chances that he's fourteen.

7/24/2010 2:25:55 PM

anevilmeme

You should have stopped at "lions are felines."

No really, you should have stopped.

Seriously you should have shut the fuck up after that.

7/24/2010 2:26:52 PM

John

let's take an example:

You breed tigers at your house on the plains, where they hunt big game. And with time, they lose their stripes and become bigger and faster. They will look all orange and white. They may still look sort of like a tiger, but they won't have the same DNA as their ancestors.

Meanwhile, I breed tigers in my house in the bayou, where there is no big game. And with time, they lose their stripes and become a lot smaller and get better at swimming. They will look all black and gray. They may still look sort of like a tiger, but they won't have the same DNA as their ancestors.

If we continue like that, after 500,000 years, your "tigers" and my "tigers" can no longer mate and produce offspring. They're now separate species and they will continue to drift further and further apart until they no longer look remotely like each other.

For a more real-life example, Google "ensatina ring species".

7/24/2010 2:28:33 PM

KittyKaboom


7/24/2010 2:34:50 PM

Zoo

Well, if your hypothetical tiger loses its stripes, you're a fucking bad caretaker (and your tiger is now dead and completely decayed). Also, individuals do not evolve, so yes, the tiger will still be a tiger, and her cubs (which will have stripes) will be tigers. And 100 years is way too little time to give evolution a chance, particularly in a species that has about 3 cubs every other year, and the females don't even breed until they're about 3.5 years old.

7/24/2010 2:35:38 PM

feralboy12

No, he's right. If you keep a tiger at your house for a year or two, his stripes will fall off. Then, after a few generations, the orange will still make them be tigers. Trees make the wind blow by waving their branches. I'm a little teacup, short and stout, this is my handle, this is my spout. I'm a tornado! I'm a tornado!

7/24/2010 2:49:14 PM

Amanda

What the hell are you talking about?

7/24/2010 2:57:24 PM

Panz

Um, wouldn't a tiger losing its stripes be kinda, you know, evolution in action? I mean actual evolution, not fundie christian "animal must change from one into another" evolution

7/24/2010 3:21:11 PM

David B.

FWM, Siegfried and Roy want a word with you...

7/24/2010 3:29:15 PM

whatever

If only people would read Darwin and learn about DNA molecules before spouting their opinion.

7/24/2010 3:30:38 PM

GodotIsWaiting4U

A tiger will not lose its stripes during its lifetime unless you like bleach it or something. The stripes could become less obvious in the species over subsequent generations IF the animal is raised in an environment in which stripes are wholly irrelevant to survival and reproductive success (that includes how the stripes impact sexual selection). Genetic drift could make tigers with less obvious stripes more prevalent over subsequent generations until the stripes are effectively gone, resulting in an entire population of stripe-less tigers. Other genes could easily drift under the same circumstances, and given enough generations, you could easily end up with a new species of tiger, incapable of breeding with other tigers. THAT, my friend, is the basic mechanism behind evolution. If a few hundred generations can make two populations incapable of breeding with one another, a few thousand generations could alter existing structures for different functions, and a few million generations could make the two populations seem so different that it's almost impossible to believe they have a common ancestor.

7/24/2010 3:50:14 PM
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