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West Australian Liberal MP Don Randall is under fire over comments he made about Julia Gillard's religious views.

The member for Canning says many people in his electorate and across the country do not like the fact Ms Gillard is an atheist.

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"It's a criticism of the fact that the electorate has deep concerns about an un-godly leader leading Australia," he said.

Mr Randall says Australia was built on Christian values, which provide the basis for being a better leader.

"We expect out leaders to convey and portray good Christian values," he said.

Don Randall, ABC News 94 Comments [7/28/2010 8:42:57 AM]
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Sherlockian

Wasn't Australia originally a penal colony?

7/28/2010 11:57:04 AM

breakerslion

Penal Colony: closest thing in what we atheists like to call F-ING REALITY to sending people to Hell. Yup, Christian values all right! Pushing people around like the alleged demented alpha-daddy role model you pray to.

7/28/2010 12:03:51 PM

LDM

I thought Australia was built by thieves and murderers. Oh wait, those are christian values.


7/28/2010 12:13:30 PM

Old Viking

Since talking out of your ass is a Christian value, Mr. Randall is a leading Christian.

7/28/2010 12:15:41 PM

TB Tabby

And I thought the Americans claiming it were dumb.

7/28/2010 12:26:55 PM



Yes, I'm sure those British prisoners were good christians.

7/28/2010 12:31:56 PM

emau99

West Australian Liberal MP Don Randall...says many people in his electorate and across the country do not like the fact Ms Gillard is an atheist.

Then those people are religious bigots.

Mr Randall says Australia was built on Christian values, which provide the basis for being a better leader.

History disagrees with Mr Randall on both points.

7/28/2010 12:32:44 PM

Ian1732

For the most advanced society on Earth, this Australian sure doesn't seem that bright.

7/28/2010 12:53:37 PM

dionysus

The member for Canning says many people in his electorate and across the country do not like the fact Ms Gillard is an atheist.

Well excuse us for existing. I had no idea we had to get people's permission.

The member for Canning says many people in his electorate and across the country do not like the fact Ms Gillard is an atheist.

Tough shit, you live in a democracy so deal with it.

Mr Randall says Australia was built on Christian values

Really? So you don't allow people to covet, use god's name in vain, work on Sunday, make graven images, disrespect their parents, have other gods, or lie? Somehow I doubt that. Also, you're clearly breaking Jesus' commandment to love your enemies. If Christians can't even be arsed to follow their own rules then why should anyone else have to?

7/28/2010 1:02:10 PM

John_in_Oz

@ Mr Spak.

I admire your work tremendously.
To answer your question, no the words 'Bible' and 'Jesus' are not in the Constitution.

'Religion' appears as follows:
116. The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion,
or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise
of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for
any office or public trust under the Commonwealth.

Pretty much answers Randall's delusions.

7/28/2010 1:25:28 PM

John

Being Christian =/= having "Christian values". Some atheists do exactly what God and Jesus said people should do: they love their neighbors, give to the poor, remain faithful to their spouses, etc. Some Christians are bad people who do none of these things. The jails are full of them.

7/28/2010 1:28:45 PM

John_in_Oz

To our American cousins.

Your strangely gap-riddled histories tell you about the Mayflower, but are misleadingly silent about the convict origin of the majority of your early settlers. You had 160 years as a penal colony before your Revolution.

7/28/2010 1:37:21 PM

Nowonmai

Another John Howard wannabe. Christian Values? Is that how you rebrand an entire continent that was used as a penal colony?

Like religious zealots are people to have in charge of a country.. just ask Iran.

7/28/2010 2:17:15 PM

Lupine

[Headache Mode]
God, Australians are so dumb, it's such a retarded country and everyone in it should just die.
[End Headache Mode]

Don Randall is a silly man who needs to keep his dogma to himself.

7/28/2010 2:38:58 PM

Mihangel apYrs

I thought Oz was built on a prison value: warders and crims!

(sorry, that is a joke)

It really doesn't matter the origins, it's the present that counts

BTW

there were people there before the British arrived with their missionaries slithering in after them!

7/28/2010 2:41:18 PM

Agnostic Jew

And here I thought Australia was built as a penal colony.

7/28/2010 2:41:25 PM



And what the hell are "Christian values"? There are two billion Christians in the world, with very different social and political views.

To call your values "Christian values" as if all two billion people of your faith agrees with you is the height of arrogance.

7/28/2010 2:43:32 PM

Shanya Almafeta

@John_in_oz:

You're forgetting the Dutch, French, Scottish, Spanish, and Swedish colonies that we purchased or quietly "subsumed", as well as the various colonies started for religious or commercial reasons. Indentured servants were only part of early American immigration (about 50,000 of the 5 million immigrants from 1500 to 1700). Most of the immigrants in that time were looking for work or the chance to start a business in a fresh market (kinda like now).

To be the "majority" of immigrants, the UK would have sent over three million convicts. (Besides, for every prisoner the UK dumped on us, we bought three slaves from Africa.) Most UK penal colonists of the times were sent to Bermuda, to build the docks and infrastructure that were needed in Bermuda's role as a stopping point on the way to the American colonies.

(This has been another episode of Far More Than You Wanted To Know. Tune in next time...)

7/28/2010 2:47:40 PM

Tolpuddle Martyr

So Don, have you murdered your disobedient son outside the city gates yet? No? You BAD CHRISTIAN!

Also, I somehow doubt any of the persons arriving in Australia 40,000 years ago where Christians, good or otherwise.

7/28/2010 2:47:55 PM

GodotIsWaiting4U

Same shit, different continent. What else is new?

7/28/2010 3:22:21 PM

DviniT

Christian Values? Deported convicts and genocide, you mean?
ps. Australia, I still love you, but as far as I'm concerned, your government will never apologize to the Aborigines enough.

7/28/2010 3:56:13 PM

Scooby71

Wonderful, I can't bring myself to vote Labor in part due to the influence a minority Christian group has over them, e.g. Conroy's web filtering, and while Gillard gets some respect for stating she's an atheist, sharing a common lack of belief doesn't mean I agree with her other views.

And the Liberals fall over themselves to alienate me. Thankfully I'm not quite in this idiot's constituency.

7/28/2010 4:36:44 PM

Wehpudicabok

What gets me is that he's a liberal politician. Now, I'm an American, and I know that political terms vary from place to place, but how is it in any way "liberal" to criticize another leader based not on their views but solely on their religious beliefs, which have no bearing on their governance? Liberalism is about tolerance of those different from you. Don Randall is no liberal in my book.

7/28/2010 5:19:52 PM

Mitch

Australia didn't have an inch of religious value when founded compared to America, all we cared about was making our own country because UK was still sending crap to us which we weren't anymore.

P.S. Shithead Americans out there - Where do you think they sent British prisoners before 1788??? I'll give you a tip, they didn't get overcrowded from an increase in crime.

7/28/2010 5:47:41 PM

aaa

Last time i checked, imperialism is still not a Christian value.

7/28/2010 5:56:05 PM
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