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West Australian Liberal MP Don Randall is under fire over comments he made about Julia Gillard's religious views.

The member for Canning says many people in his electorate and across the country do not like the fact Ms Gillard is an atheist.


"It's a criticism of the fact that the electorate has deep concerns about an un-godly leader leading Australia," he said.

Mr Randall says Australia was built on Christian values, which provide the basis for being a better leader.

"We expect out leaders to convey and portray good Christian values," he said.

Don Randall, ABC News 94 Comments [7/28/2010 8:42:57 AM]
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Tolpuddle Martyr

@ Wehpudicabok

Australian conservative PM Sir Robert Menzies (the chap who tried to get communism outlawed in Australia) gave the "Liberal" party it's name sort of as a giant "Fuck You" to liberals everywhere.

@ All my fellow Aussies getting pissed off at the whole convict thing.

Stop being so bloody hypersensitive for fucks sake! The Yanks over the pond go out there and tell the entire planet that their country is full of people like this.

Quite possibly descended from a pre 1788 convict who may or may not have been convicted for actually stealing from himself.

7/29/2010 1:51:03 PM

It's AUSTRALIA!!! A country mainly known for Beer, meat based outdoor meals, bad soap shows and ridiculously hot women. NOT THE BIBLE!! Stop pretending your country is something it isn't.

7/29/2010 2:32:19 PM


"Mr. Randall says Australia was built on Christian values"

Treaty of Tripoli, bi...

Oh... *Australia*. Never mind.


7/29/2010 2:45:00 PM

(American says something dumb)

Rest of the world: Lol, Americans are dumb.

(Australian says something dumb)

Rest of the world: Lol, that guy is dumb. By the way, Americans are dumb too.

7/29/2010 3:09:01 PM


@ Tolpuddle Martyr:

Jokes are fine, but they're American, so they're probably stupid enough to believe that all Australians are convicts living in the desert or something.

@ #1186619:

It's soooo hard not to generalise America, let alone the fact that it's enjoyable to give them a taste of their own medicine.

@ #1186616: What are you talking about?! Neighbours is hilarious! Do you know how many of my friends have just rocked up and got a part with lines on the show? My friend's friend played Stingray. And I mean Home and Away is just so sad that it's funny as well, I mean it's like "Duh, okay, let's make a show where all the guys are on steroids and all the girls use enough makeup for a troop of clowns and then every so often we'll add stalkers and lesbians!"

@ Raynfala:

Australia never needed it :)

7/29/2010 4:54:00 PM



I know! It would be an outrage, too, if it weren't precisely what Americans do to everyone else...the beam in one's eye, etc, etc.

7/29/2010 7:36:18 PM

Oh I knew that was coming.

7/29/2010 8:32:20 PM


Yes The Preamble to our constitution reads:

Whereas the people of New South Wales, Victoria, South Australia, Queensland,
and Tasmania, humbly relying on the blessing of Almighty God, have agreed to
unite in one indissoluble Federal Commonwealth under the Crown of the United
Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, and under the Constitution hereby

However it Also contains:

116. The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion,
or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise
of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for
any office or public trust under the Commonwealth.

7/29/2010 9:50:33 PM


The really batshit thing about this guy is that he actually seems to believe that Australians wouldn't elect an atheist. Does he spend all his free time watching rubbish like FAUX News and no time listening to his own constituency?

7/29/2010 10:02:36 PM


@ Neith:

To be honest, I'm kind of caught up, I'd rather a completely agnostic person with no belief/disbelief to run a country with the non-bias compared to an atheist who might not factor religion in at all.

Then again, I'm most certainly not going to vote for a fundie catholic who thinks women should always do the ironing and stay virgins until they're 30 and I mean, what little argument I have against an atheist Prime Minister probably won't even be important, she might just have the same non-bias perspectives as somebody with absolutely no belief/disbelief.

7/30/2010 2:08:57 AM


"Mr Randall says Australia was built on Christian values, which provide the basis for being a better leader."

I think you'll find that Australia was built on the foundations of the Aboriginal peoples, and their pre-Christian beliefs. Later, the influx of convicts. Who weren't exactly, by definition, imbued with 'Christian values'. (no offence to our Australian commenters)

"We expect out leaders to convey and portray good Christian values,"

Nick Clegg, leader of the Liberal Democrats and Deputy Prime Minister of the Lib-Con coalition government here in the UK, is an Atheist.

Your call, Don.

7/30/2010 7:55:46 AM


Oh gods...they're taking over Australia, too?!

7/31/2010 11:12:19 AM


I do hope she does a good enough job to make people doubt the idea that Christians are better leaders.

8/2/2010 2:28:22 PM

refuter of fundy vermin

How disappointing. The brainlessness of conservative American 'Christians' has extended to the wonderful land Down Under.

Go fall off a boat in the Neptune Islands, fuckwit - and then see if Jeebus will save you from the Great White Sharks that live there.

8/2/2010 10:35:45 PM


"The member for Canning says many people in his electorate and across the country do not like the fact Ms Gillard is an atheist."

Clearly, however, they were not a sufficiently large voting block to actually beat her, so it's probably not that big of a deal.

@ Mitch

Australia is a great country. Very nice weather I'm told, though I think I would get to missing the snow after a bit (I understand it does snow regularly in the more southern areas, but I believe it's pretty rare in most of the country.) Those Australians I have met have been lovely people, and not the least bit murder-inclined. I'm sure no one intended to imply otherwise, not even the Americans (okay I'm not 100% sure, but even Americans can be non-ethnocentric much of the time.)

8/4/2010 5:45:36 PM


@ Gloria: O.o... I am Australian...

8/5/2010 3:02:14 AM


@ mitch
I know (it was actually pretty darn obvious.) But you also seemed to be getting disproportionally offended by the penal colony comments. It was intended as a little more of a "yes, we know, Australia's great overall, no need to get your feathers in a twist" (And while adressed to you, was intended to convey a similar sentiment to anyone else whose feathers are getting ruffled.) I suppose I should have made that clearer...

8/5/2010 7:36:44 AM


Australia was built on christian values? Quick! Someone tell the christian fundies in America! They've got it all confused! It's not America that was founded on christianity, it was Australia! I'd like to donate 35 cents to the fundie relocation program. Sorry about that Aussies! Good luck! Call us if you need anything!

8/5/2010 10:54:07 AM


Actually, Australia is one of the most progressive countries in the world because being so young it doesn't have the set-in-stone moral and religious values that have been around in England and America for hundreds of years..

Why else do you think women got the vote here so early one? Because of Christians?!?!

4/2/2011 3:51:40 AM

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