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[A Series of really angry tweets because of prop 8 Trials]

Prop 8 Decision Threatens Core Civil Right to Vote for Marriage -This is a travesty of justice. The majority of Californians - and two-thirds of black voters in California - have just had their core civil right to vote for marriage stripped from them by an openly gay federal judge who has misread history and the Constitution to impose his San Francisco views on the American people.

The implicit comparison Judge Walker made between racism and marriage is particularly offensive to me and to all of us who remember the reality of Jim Crow.

It is not bigotry it is biology that discriminates between same-sex couples and opposite-sex couples. To make a marriage requires a husband and a wife because these unions are necessary to make new life and connect children to their mother and father.

Judge Walker’s slur will not stand the test of time and history. We demand that Congress and the Supreme Court act to protect all Americans’ right to vote for marriage.


Bishop Harry Jackson, Right Wing Watch 64 Comments [8/11/2010 9:08:14 AM]
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Kitourahime

Please remember that you tweeted this.

It is, ergo, automatically invalid.

8/9/2010 9:16:25 AM

shykid


8/10/2010 5:18:59 PM

J-

Wow, a travesty of justice? Really?

Now, I'm probably younger than the good reverend (oxymoron), and I wasn't around when there were still Jim Crow/anti-miscegenation laws, but wouldn't a ban on interracial marriage be equivalent to a ban on same sex? Isn't a ban a prevention of someone doing something? Wasn't the repeal of Jim Crow laws the lifting of bans?

Someone help me here....I'm confused. Or is the bishop just a fundie asshole?

8/11/2010 9:20:27 AM

Jezebel's Evil Sister

"Judge Walker’s slur will not stand the test of time and history."

LMAO! Eventually, people in a post-homophobe America will look back and wonder what all the fuss was about, and bigots like Bishop Harry Jackson will be as scorned and ridiculed as the racists that tried and failed to stop the Civil Rights Movement of the 1960s.

I only hope I live long enough to say, "I told you so."

8/11/2010 9:38:03 AM

HoJuSimpson

their core civil right to vote for marriage stripped from them

What the fuck is this shit? NOTHING was taken from you. Your life and your marriage will still go on regardless of what other people who you probably don't even know are doing.

I personally dislike the institution of marriage, yet unlike Bishop Huge Jackass I don't dream of seeking specific people out and voting to restrict their lives for no actual harmful reason. Just as there was no reason to ban interracial marriage, there isn't one to ban same-sex marriage. Your religion has fuck all to do with everyone else.

@ shykid LOL

8/11/2010 9:40:25 AM

Thinking Allowed

Judge Walker’s slur will not stand the test of time and history. We demand that Congress and the Supreme Court act to protect all Americans’ right to vote for marriage.

Does that include the GLBT's right to vote as well?

8/11/2010 9:42:29 AM

Berny

Where did you get the notion the judge is gay? He is a Republican appointed by Ronald Reagan, and at the time his appointment was bitterly contested by gays since it was felt he was anti-gay.
Fuck you, Bishop Jackass.

8/11/2010 9:45:09 AM

JohnTheAtheist

So by your reason, we also shouldn't allow post menopausal women to marry. That union also can not make new life.

Even if 99% of people vote for something, if it takes away an inalienable right of the other 1% it is unconstitutional.

A tyranny of the majority is still a tyranny.

8/11/2010 9:46:03 AM

Nackles

J, in case your question was serious: the argument is usually that you can't compare the two because black people can't hide it but GLB people can. Which is the part of the conversation in which one should always ask "So you're OK with discrimination against Christians? 'Cause you could hide that too."

8/11/2010 9:46:09 AM

Percy Q. Shunn

That "liberal" judge is actually a libertarian. Who was eventually nominated to the bench by George H. W. Bush. And Nancy Pelosi led the defeat of his first nomination. That means she lead the fight AGAINST him. Should I mention his initial nomination was made by none other than Ronald Reagan?

So, to re-cap, Ronald Reagan nominated a judge whose nomination was defeated by Nancy Pelosi, and who later was nominated again by George H. W. Bush, and he was subsequently confirmed. Care to prattle on about the evil liberal judge?

8/11/2010 9:54:17 AM

AuraTwilight

People don't have the right to vote on other people's rights, you fucking moron. The Founding Fathers specifically worked to prevent that. What you want is ANTI-AMERICAN.

8/11/2010 10:02:23 AM

Swede

Since when is the US a direct democracy? You do not get to vote on everything in a representative democracy, where you elect a government to make the decisions for you.

If you are offended by the Jim Crow laws, then you ought to welcome this decision to throw out another set of discriminatory laws.
If you liked the Jim Crow laws, then you ought to proudly call yourself a racist.

Marriage is a legal contract, not a biology matter. Plus, it is not connected to making new life, or someone would have contacted me and my husband long ago, to force us to divorce, as we seem to be unable to have kids.

Protect all Americans' right to marry their loved ones instead. Who someone else marries has no impact on your life, unless it's your sibling, parent or child.
Live and let live, please!

8/11/2010 10:08:17 AM

dionysus

The majority of Californians - and two-thirds of black voters in California - have just had their core civil right to vote for marriage stripped from them by an openly gay federal judge who has misread history and the Constitution to impose his San Francisco views on the American people.

Democracy=/=mob rule. Otherwise we'd still have segregation. In a democracy the minority is protected from the whims of the majority.

It is not bigotry it is biology that discriminates between same-sex couples and opposite-sex couples.

Then explain bonobos. Because they have absolutely no problem getting it on with the same sex.

8/11/2010 10:13:29 AM

Veca

I propose a vote: that a marriage should be redefined (once again) as being between a Secular man and a Secular woman.

8/11/2010 10:15:16 AM

Quantum Mechanic

bullshit

Now get back to buggering choir boys.

8/11/2010 10:17:33 AM

GigaGuess

Part 1

Prop 8 Decision Threatens Core Civil Right to Vote for Marriage -This is a travesty of justice.
Yes, it's a travesty that it had to get to the Supreme Court to get overturned in the first place, but I doubt that's what you mean.

The majority of Californians - and two-thirds of black voters in California - have just had their core civil right to vote for marriage...
You mean your right to vote on OTHER people's marriage, and impose your own morality on them. The part that kills me is these are the same people that would jump and scream and cry if legislation came into play to ban, say, cigarettes, bawling that the government should stay out of their lives. And even sadder to to that apparently 2/3 of African Americans either don't recall Anti-Miscegination laws, or have blinded themselves to the similarities.

...stripped from them by an openly gay federal judge who has misread history and the Constitution to impose his San Francisco views on the American people.
Oh, I see. He lets two people who you will likely never meet marry in a church you will likely never go to, in a ceremony you are likely not invited to, and go home to live out their lives together in a house you will likely never even see is a huge imposition on you, and forcing his views on you, whereas telling two people who they can or cannot marry based on a morality they may not even believe in, is what...your God given right as an American?

8/11/2010 10:29:20 AM

Reckoner

Unconstitutional is unconstitutional no matter how many people vote for it, asshole.

8/11/2010 10:29:51 AM

GigaGuess

Part 2

The implicit comparison Judge Walker made between racism and marriage is particularly offensive to me and to all of us who remember the reality of Jim Crow.
You're kidding. The only difference here is we can hide a behavior better than you can hide skin color, so we're not as easily targetted. However people like you enjoy provig that if you could, you would do so in a heartbeat...all on the basis of who I sleep with. Gosh, no, that has no paralell to racism AT ALL.

It is not bigotry it is biology that discriminates between same-sex couples and opposite-sex couples. To make a marriage requires a husband and a wife because these unions are necessary to make new life and connect children to their mother and father.
So you will be fighting to annul infertile couples, then? Should Elderly couples be disallowed to marry? I mean...after menopause hits, there's the same potential for life there. Until you can be consistent about this, bucko, it's discriminatory.

Judge Walker’s slur will not stand the test of time and history. We demand that Congress and the Supreme Court act to protect all Americans’ right to vote for marriage.
I love it. Your alleged right to marriage trumps our right to live a happy, prosperous life as we see fit. I would love to see where in the constitution you find your right to impose your morality and religion on those who don't agree with you.

8/11/2010 10:30:02 AM

Allegory for Jesus

"It is not bigotry it is biology that discriminates between white people and black people. "

You completely fail to understand why the comparison of gay marriage to the African American civil rights movement is valid. There are biological differences between the two groups, and the proper response to this is "who gives a fuck?" while the popular response to it is to claim that one is inferior and undeserving of equal treatment. Get it?

8/11/2010 10:33:25 AM

Sisyphus

He says as he's bleaching his hood...

8/11/2010 10:52:11 AM

Rob aka Mediancat

I do get a little sick and tired of hearing people be "offended" by the comparison of gay marriage to the civil rights struggle in the '50s and the '60s. They're pretty damned analogical, and the only reason to be offended is that the person offended is as bigoted as those who opposed civil rights.

8/11/2010 11:07:13 AM



self-styled "bishop" Jackson talks out of his arse

8/11/2010 11:22:57 AM

BobsOldSocks

"Core Civil Right to Vote for Marriage"

Never heard of it but then again I ain't a USAian. Of course, you'll be able to point to the exact place in your Bill of Rights or constitution that guarantees this "Core Civil Right", right? Right?

"To make a marriage requires a husband and a wife because these unions are necessary to make new life and connect children to their mother and father."

And what about all those unions between people who can't have or don't want children? Are they not marriages? Have you even thought this through? Do you have a functioning brain?

8/11/2010 11:23:05 AM

Doubting Thomas

have just had their core civil right to vote for marriage stripped from them

Right to vote for marriage? I didn't know any such thing existed. BTW, having civil rights doesn't mean you get to vote on what rights other people may or may not have.

To make a marriage requires a husband and a wife because these unions are necessary to make new life

No they're not. Have you ever heard of children born to unmarried couples? Or unwed mothers? The only thing necessary to make new life is a little bom-chika-wah-wah.

We demand that Congress and the Supreme Court act to protect all Americans’ right to vote for marriage.

Show me where that right is listed in the U.S. Constitution and maybe we can work on an agreement. Until then, STFU.

8/11/2010 11:23:55 AM

Jesus Klingon

Jackson: The majority of Californians - and two-thirds of black voters in California - have just had their core civil right to vote for marriage stripped from them by an openly gay federal judge who has misread history and the Constitution to impose his San Francisco views on the American people.

Klingon: So?

Jackson: So? You don’t care what the American people think?

Klingon: No. I think you cannot be blown off course by the fluctuations in the public opinion polls.

8/11/2010 11:24:33 AM
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