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There is no greater threat to science than atheist mentality.

Highly religious Theists invented the scientific method, classical physics, electromagnetic theory, and quantum theory. After atheists finally took over science in the late 1960s and early 1970s and claimed religion was holding back science, we immediately stopped finding cures, physics became stuck with untestable theories, and technology started growing much slower than anticipated.

Atheist mentality is that everything outside of the evidence, outside of the box, outside of your personal incredulity, outside of what most scientists believe is fantasy and imagination, nonsense, fictional, foolishness, magical thinking.

Atheists try to prevent people from thinking outside in this way or having creativity and imagination because thinking outside is viewed as nonsensical fantasy to most atheists. That's why they discourage thinking outside of the evidence.

In the past when Theists ran science, creativity was not discouraged like how it is now intentionally by atheists.

When we look back at the history of science we see that vast majority of the ideas that caused science to grow the most were all ideas that were initially viewed as nonsense, and these ideas were outside of what most scientists believed.

Since atheists run the peer reviewed journals now, they only let in ideas that match into their own personal incredulity otherwise it is viewed as nonsense and fantasy and not let into peer-reviewed journals.

If atheists hadn't taken over the peer reviewed journals, and creativity and imagination wasn't intentionally discouraged by atheists, how far do you think science would be?

Since atheist mentality causes the greatest destruction to creativity and imagination, how far do you think science would be if Theists still ran science?

TheSage, FRDB 64 Comments [8/30/2010 3:05:52 PM]
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Headache

Atheist mentality is that everything outside of the evidence, outside of the box, outside of your personal incredulity, outside of what most scientists believe is fantasy and imagination, nonsense, fictional, foolishness, magical thinking.

Not atheist but scientists.

No evidence - fantasy!

It's as simple as that.


8/30/2010 3:15:33 PM

Man Called True

So atheists took over and technology stagnated RIGHT at the start of the great computing revolution.

...*snort*

8/30/2010 3:19:29 PM

David B.

Yup, nothing of any value whatsoever has ever been invented since the 1960s. You heard it here first folks...

"Here" probably being on an LCD flat-screen TV, connected to a PC using VLSI semiconductors, connected via DSL to an internet gateway.

"how far do you think science would be if Theists still ran science?"

We'd probably be on the verge of uninventing the wheel.

8/30/2010 3:22:37 PM

Xotan

Three words

Hovind and Ham

8/30/2010 3:31:09 PM

CohibaMan

Poe, right?

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... right?

8/30/2010 3:37:24 PM

timjamiller

Mark this one--they just admitted that theism is akin to creativity.

8/30/2010 3:55:20 PM

Canadia

You do still run science!

Wait, you didn't mean 'into the ground'?

8/30/2010 3:58:04 PM



Religion doesn't spoil science for the rest of us, and neither does atheism. Though, and I might annoy a few people here, they can both share something which is extremely detrimental to science - dogmatic thinking. It is this which holds back scientific progress and stifles creativity.

If, for instance, someone genuinely did come up with evidence which shattered the theory of evolution - legitimately did find fossil rabbits in the Precambrian, hundreds of them, all over the world (I dunno, I'm trying to think of something reasonably irrefutable here) - if that happened, I suspect he'd still be laughed out of the scientific community because a lot of scientists are dogmatically opposed to hearing counter evidence to evolution. We'd probably get there eventually, but it would still set us back a fair way.

And before the flame war begins, let me add that I think that scenario is about as likely as aliens bringing back Elvis. Not very.

But yeah, the accepted dogma is what has stifled scientific progress in the past, and not always because the accepted dogma was that Goddidit.

8/30/2010 4:01:11 PM

TGRwulf

Holy shit, this gives "head in the ground" a WHOLE new meaning...

8/30/2010 4:02:01 PM

Old Viking

A theist invented those little thingies at the ends of shoelaces.

8/30/2010 4:02:13 PM



"After atheists finally took over science in the late 1960s and early 1970s and claimed religion was holding back science, we immediately stopped finding cures, physics became stuck with untestable theories, and technology started growing much slower than anticipated."

Ok, it's been confirmed. This guy has been living in a cave all his life.

8/30/2010 4:04:34 PM

nazani14

They were pretty gentle with him over at FRDB- he's suspended, and nobody insulted his mother. First clue that someone's oars are not in the water: they name themselves "the Sage."

8/30/2010 4:08:59 PM

Headache

David B.
connected via DSL to an internet gateway.


DSL? Does this crap still exist? Who in their right mind uses this slow and crappy system these days?

8/30/2010 4:12:55 PM

anevilmeme

So full of shit it'll collapse into a black hole.

Seriously, who are you lying to yourself?



8/30/2010 4:16:54 PM

loki

He is thinking like that great leader in Turkmenistan (who died a year ago). Were the children learn at school that the Turkmen people invented the wheel and fire. Now that’s what I call fantasy.
But you have to admit that these people (these christen fundies) have a incredible dogmatic fantasy. The less you know (the more fantasy you need) the more truth is on your side.


ps
"A theist invented those little thingies at the ends of shoelaces"

These are called aglet ;-) (know your phineas and ferb :-))

8/30/2010 4:23:15 PM



lolwut?

8/30/2010 4:28:58 PM



Yeah I ask you who exactly was it that thought these ideas of science were nonsense?

8/30/2010 4:37:23 PM

Alcari

In the past when Theists ran science, creativity was not discouraged like how it is now intentionally by atheists.

Ahum


8/30/2010 4:42:29 PM

aaa

From what i have seem, you would burn science books because they don't agree with your bible. And we have already developed stuff that would make your head spin so fast that it would be mistaken as a helicopter.

8/30/2010 4:43:34 PM

Elia

All right, how did you get here? I don't think they had time travel back during the 16th century.

8/30/2010 5:13:11 PM

John

Highly religious Theists invented the scientific method, classical physics, electromagnetic theory, and quantum theory. After atheists finally took over science in the late 1960s and early 1970s and claimed religion was holding back science, we immediately stopped finding cures, physics became stuck with untestable theories, and technology started growing much slower than anticipated.

This guy must have stepped through the Looking Glass. Certainly, most of the great scientists and mathematicians of the 17th and 18th century were believers of some sort of roughly-Christian god, as were almost all people back then. But to call them "highly religious" is a pretty big stretch.

8/30/2010 5:22:20 PM

Jedi Knight

@Elia: Don't you know time travel always existed, by definition.

8/30/2010 5:38:29 PM



Funny how he says theists instead of Muslims seeing as how it was Muslims that gave us the modern scientific method together with a whole host of other stuff during the period that Cordoba ruled. Yes, thats right, Cordoba was and is not associated with conquest or violence in Muslim history by Muslims. It is associated with scintific and religious progress and tolerance.

8/30/2010 5:43:39 PM

Berny

What universe is this true in because it sure isn't the one I live in.

8/30/2010 6:18:43 PM



Pick up a fucking history book. If religion didn't hold science back, then why did Aristotle's erroneous number of theories get a number of scientists killed or shut up by the Catholic Church? Religion may not've stopped science, but Theocracy does!

8/30/2010 6:19:48 PM
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