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the only way you can say you were born gay is if you connect that with the fact that we are born sinners. It isnt a genetics problem, Its a sin problem. A spirit comes with this particular sin and its not something you just cant control. I too was in this lifestyle for many years and now that I have turned back to the Lord I am done with it. Its not just some daily sacrifice and its not a battle to stay straight! It is NO LONGER AN ISSUE!! Praise the Lord!

Joy Renuard-Montgomery, Facebook: Protect Marriage: One Man, One Woman 45 Comments [9/2/2010 7:08:22 AM]
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Yownanymous

*Sigh*

To whoever wrote this: I think you should seek help or reassurance. Homosexuality isn't abnormal because some people tell you it is. Stay away from these people and the rest of the world will accept you and help you.

9/2/2010 7:17:54 AM



Who wants to bet this fool still screws men on the side? He likely infected his wife and future children with STDs since fundies just don't do protection. People like this don't want to protect marriage, they want to protect their image so they can get away with whatever it is they want to do right this second.

9/2/2010 7:28:26 AM

christian leftie

Sin = an act that separates you from the divine.
Sexuality = not an act.

Your argument fails at the first hurdle.

9/2/2010 7:30:34 AM

Mister Spak

The only way you can believe that nonsense is if you connect that with the fact that you are insane. It isn't a gay problem it's a mental illness problem. You are completely kookoo and will believe any stupid thing you are told, even if it contradicts the reality right in front of you.

9/2/2010 7:43:17 AM

Doubting Thomas

There's no such thing as sin. And I really hate this "born sinners" idea, as if a newborn baby has any knowledge whatsoever of right and wrong. And the idea that we're all born sinners because of Adam & Eve is just ludicrous, because blaming all of humanity for what the supposed first two humans supposedly did is just stupid and unfair. Genesis is a fairy tale, anyway.

9/2/2010 7:49:37 AM

GigaGuess

How's Bubba at the truckstop? He still parting your red cheeks?

9/2/2010 7:53:51 AM

nutbunny

"It isnt a genetics problem, Its a sin problem."
Its actually NOT a problem at all.

"I too was in this lifestyle for many years and now that I have turned back to the Lord I am done with it"
If you want to crawl back into the closet to "praise the Lord" go right ahead. Just don't drag the rest of us in there with you Mr Joy.

"It is NO LONGER AN ISSUE!!"
OKAY.IF YOU SAY SO!!1111!

9/2/2010 8:03:36 AM

nazani14

Translation: I've finally gotten so fat that other men won't even let me blow them.

9/2/2010 8:03:40 AM

Thinking Allowed

Joy is one of two things.

1. She is still gay and really deep in the closet

2. She was never gay to start with.

9/2/2010 8:07:25 AM

Mudak

Nothing like a little self-delusion that helps you cope with another self-delusion. I think that's why so many "ex-gays" need "god."

9/2/2010 8:12:22 AM



"...if you connect that with the fact that we are born sinners."

But we are not! The demagogues are all complicit in this lie.

9/2/2010 8:15:57 AM



Using the old "I was gay once but I changed," bullshit argument.

9/2/2010 8:26:18 AM

Brenz

Somebody told you you were born with evil on your soul because of something someone else did, and you believed them?

Even when I was religious that didn't wash with me.

9/2/2010 8:35:59 AM

Doctor Whom

Yes, and John Paulk ducked into Mr. P's just to use the men's room.

9/2/2010 8:58:32 AM



I feel bad for this person. If they're happy the way they are now, I don't really mind (except the whole trying to spoil it for everyone else thing), but I suspect sexuality is a bit like handedness. I'm right handed, and if that were somehow looked down upon, as left-handedness has been in the past, then I could perhaps train myself to be ambidextrous, or left handed entirely. But why should I have to? Why should I have to go through all that struggle and unlearning just because of the whim of a broken society?

9/2/2010 9:21:16 AM

John_in_Oz

Let me guess. You tried the girls 'cause the guys wouldn't have you, and now that the girls won't have you either, you're straight and Christian?
Whatever lifts your luggage.

9/2/2010 9:25:42 AM

freako104

That assumes sin is real and is a problem. And I don't have any battles staying straight.

9/2/2010 9:34:24 AM

the old firm

"Sigh" Like John_in_Oz said: Whatever lifts your luggage.

Also: "It is NO LONGER AN ISSUE!!" My, why the screaming? One has to wonder...

9/2/2010 9:56:03 AM

JohnTheAtheist

Oh yea? What do you think about when you masturbate?

I feel sorry for you.

9/2/2010 10:13:13 AM

EMT420

I love how fundies talk about "the gay lifestyle" as if there is one such lifestyle.

I'm afraid that, if they looked into my lifestyle, they would be pretty bored and disappointed.

9/2/2010 10:28:09 AM



Typical fundie mindset: She can't keep herself from committing acts she regards a sinful without having some iron hand of authority preventing her from doing those things, so she thinks everybody else needs that, too.



9/2/2010 11:00:33 AM



I have a bisexual friend who's now happily married to a man, with no plans to cheat on him. Doesn't mean she doesn't still think about women. We see right through you, Joy.

9/2/2010 11:05:30 AM

Canadia

It was never an issue.

9/2/2010 11:11:56 AM

NoriMori

@#1201574

"I feel bad for this person. If they're happy the way they are now, I don't really mind (except the whole trying to spoil it for everyone else thing), but I suspect sexuality is a bit like handedness. I'm right handed, and if that were somehow looked down upon, as left-handedness has been in the past, then I could perhaps train myself to be ambidextrous, or left handed entirely."

Yeah, and actually, these two things (sexuality vs. handedness) are more alike than you think, because trying to use a hand different from your actual one all the time can really mess you up. There was this guy in the royal family (Prince... Something. I don't remember) who was left-handed, and he was forced to use his right hand in everything, and it really messed him up. I think he had like speech problems and stuff (I don't remember the details). But when he was allowed to use his right hand he was fine. Too bad the consequences of repressing your sexuality can be more long-lasting than that.

9/2/2010 11:43:21 AM

Sasha

Sez Joy, "Maybe if I keep screaming 'IT'S NO LONGER AN ISSUE!' loudly enough, I will someday believe it."

9/2/2010 12:27:15 PM
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