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The U.S. should demand that religious equality be showed to Christians in Saudi Arabia (and all parts of the world). And we should be willing to back up such demands with physical force.

Honestly, you can't have total religious freedom. So while we are drawing lines in the sand it doesn't seem too illogical to go ahead and outlaw a faith that is rather dangerous to those who do not adhear to the said faith. Should we allow the people to serve Kali? Lets just bring back the Thuggee and why not Baal worship? Why not let people let "their children pass through the fire"--its religious freedom after all!

As to the "Community Center", they are--by law allowed to build where they please. So long as the funding is not tax payer money, they have the right to build it, even if it is in very poor taste. Personally I would like to see the laws changed to forbid Muslims from entering America, or living therein.

When Islamic nations are free for non-muslims to visit/live with equal rights--then maybe we can start a two-way street.

Why support a faith that does not show the same support for our citizens?

Army man 83, CF 79 Comments [9/3/2010 10:32:20 PM]
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Reckoner

So while we are drawing lines in the sand it doesn't seem too illogical to go ahead and outlaw a faith that is rather dangerous to those who do not adhear to the said faith.

Good point. Christianity should be banned now for being too dangerous to the liberty of others.

9/3/2010 10:37:02 PM

K T

"The U.S. should demand that religious equality be showed to Christians in Saudi Arabia "

"I would like to see the laws changed to forbid Muslims from entering America, or living therein."



Wow..................

9/3/2010 10:43:56 PM

Musicalbookworm

<sigh> Yes, let's become just like a nation for its intolerance and human rights abuses.

9/3/2010 10:44:59 PM



So you look at Saudi Arabia, Iran, Afghanistan and you think "boy I hate those guys, let's copy them and become an oppressive theocracy too"?

I'd weep for the world, but I'm afraid if I started, I wouldn't ever be able to stop.

9/3/2010 10:54:46 PM

Orion

Doesn't the Bible command the stoning of unbelievers?

9/3/2010 10:55:16 PM

Swede

Of course you can have total religious freedom! You have the right to believe in any god you want, but, as with all human rights, your rights end where mine begin.
Neither of us have the right to infringe on each other's rights.

You want Saudi Arabia to show respect for basic human rights before you are prepared to do the same? How does that work for you?

"Why not let people let "their children pass through the fire"--its religious freedom after all!"
Why not let people pray for their sick kids, instead of rushing them to a hospital - it's religious freedom after all!
No, it isn't. The child has freedom of religion too, and the right to life and to be treated with respect.

I and many others actually do demand that religious freedom is showed to Christians in Muslim countries, and to Muslims in Christian countries, and to Hindus, Buddhists, atheists, deists, Satanists, pagans, etc as well. That's one of many reasons this site exists, I guess.

9/3/2010 11:01:00 PM

Wehpudicabok

"Yes! Why should we have higher standards of religious tolerance than Saudi Arabia?" - Jon Stewart

9/3/2010 11:06:55 PM

aaa

Let me tell you something, you reactionary bastard. Do you really want to turn USA to some dictatorship? Do you really want to start crushing freedoms just because you perceive one of the largest religions in the world as dangerous?

You fuckers are shameful and i hope you have the self-awareness to realize how bad you have become.

9/3/2010 11:09:59 PM

WMDKitty

Why not, the sheeple already support Christianity, and Islam isn't all that different....

9/3/2010 11:10:57 PM

zipperback

Remember back in the Cold War when Russians were defecting to America to escape their crappy leadership or in WW2 when citizens in Nazi occupied territories were fleeing the tide of fascist takeover?

I wonder how Army man 83 would react to those people. He'd likely deliver them back into the hands of totalitarianism until their respective countries set up complimentary day spas for visiting Americans.

9/3/2010 11:12:45 PM

buff114

I think you just drastically misunderstood the concept of a two-way street.

9/3/2010 11:19:23 PM

AmericaNeedsALeftHand

Islam is not a concrete monolithic entity. Its a religion. Youre talking about banning people from taking on an identity and thats just evil. It would be like banning people from referring to themselves as "rapists" instead of banning the act of rape.

9/3/2010 11:36:56 PM

toothache

Shell-shock?

9/4/2010 12:55:41 AM

Think or GTFO

Of course you can't have total religious freedom. Your right to practice your religion ends when it brings harm to someone else, or infringes on their rights and freedoms.

9/4/2010 1:17:30 AM



I now have a voice in my head in a redneck accent crying: "Wah do them moose limbs hayte Amerrrrkuh?"

Please tell me it's not just me.

9/4/2010 1:46:13 AM



So while we are drawing lines in the sand it doesn't seem too illogical to go ahead and outlaw a faith that is rather dangerous to those who do not adhear to the said faith.

HAHAHAHA! Do you have any idea how many people died by Christian hands for not being Christian? You can't be this stupid.

Should we allow the people to serve Kali? Lets just bring back the Thuggee and why not Baal worship? Why not let people let "their children pass through the fire"--its religious freedom after all!

The forcing of children to pass through fire argument is just beyond stupid. But why should I care if people believe in Kali or Baal? If you're trying to make the point that worship of those deities can lead to violence, again, just take a look back at the history of Christianity.

When Islamic nations are free for non-muslims to visit/live with equal rights--then maybe we can start a two-way street.

Why support a faith that does not show the same support for our citizens?


Right because all of our immigrant ancestors came from countries that provided religious freedom... What are smoking? This country was built, in part, around the idea that people could come here to escape religious persecution in their own countries. Christians benefited greatly from this concept and now that there are a sizable number of Muslims who are trying to benefit from it as well, you spew out this moronic nonsense? Please, you just want to discriminate against Muslims and are trying to make it sound like it's coming from a logical (as opposed to hateful) place. You're not fooling anyone.

9/4/2010 1:47:20 AM

Creedence Leonore Gielgud

"The U.S. should demand that religious equality be showed to Christians in Saudi Arabia"

Yes, we should, but not for the reason you think. We should demand this not because Christians are inherently special, but because we believe that all humans have certain basic rights, one being the right to freedom of religion. We shouldn't have close ties with any nation as brutal, and backwards as Saudi Arabia, and we shouldn't tolerate our own citizens actively working to turn us into a similar hell hole.

"Honestly, you can't have total religious freedom."

The only thing stopping it is assholes like you, and the Saudi royal family.




9/4/2010 2:03:29 AM

Godbuster

Yes, why don't we act like children.

"But... but... THEY get to build THEIR church on our Island!"

Muslims have every right to be in this country. What are you going to do? Throw a tantrum?

9/4/2010 2:44:32 AM

Freethinker

"The U.S. should demand that religious equality be showed to Christians in Saudi Arabia (and all parts of the world). And we should be willing to back up such demands with physical force"

New crusades...

Hey numbskull! I've been to a few arabic (and therefor muslim) countries. Like everywhere else, you're welcome as a foreign visitor. Perhaps even more so than your precious USA, because immigration is a whole lot friendlier than your Homeland Security Nazis with their cattle-prods to goad the incoming people. (Yes! I've seen a fat bitch in Detroit using some baton as a cattle prod while waiting in line to enter, all the time being harassed with some obnoxious 'welcome movie' obviously produced by Disney)

The difference between a visitor and a citizen usually is arranged by law. As long as you stick with the law, there's no problem whatsoever.
Your 'Demand of religios equality' usually boils down to downright prosletyzing (sp?) and that's being frowned upon, go figure.

Perhaps it's not christians who are being maltreated in the muslim world, but you yanks.

And they have every reason to.

9/4/2010 2:47:35 AM

Darn

Should we allow the people to serve Kali?
Indian a Jones and the Temple of Doom was not a documentary you ignorant moron, probably more people are worshipping Kali right now than you care to imagine.

BTW America imposing it's values on the rest of the world always works out great doesn't it .... Chile, San Salvador, Vietnam, Iraq ...

9/4/2010 2:55:43 AM

Hakar

`Why support a faith that does not show the same support for our citizens?`

Because you are (supposed to be) better than them.

9/4/2010 3:23:51 AM

Berny

Either you have freedom of worship or you don't. You can't pick and choose, that's not how your Constitution works. Trying to force other countries to have the same laws as you by force, while it may seem like a good idea to an idiot like you, is what keeps getting the USA in trouble all over the fucking world.

9/4/2010 4:48:32 AM

The L

Like Christianity has any better of a track record?

9/4/2010 5:01:42 AM



How much do you want to be that his idea of "worshipping Kali" came from Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom?

9/4/2010 5:02:48 AM

Matante

"Why not let people let "their children pass through the fire"--its religious freedom after all!"

I'm pretty sure the same person would claim that raising children socially isolated is a right because some sects of christianity support it. I'd gladly choose "passing through the fire" over sixteen years of sensory deprivation, thank you.

9/4/2010 5:08:33 AM
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