MellowYellow #fundie

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This whole over turning of Prop 8 thing...

Does this make it official that it's no longer a democracy or was that an obvious a long time ago?

It's all very, very sad. And the knowledge that such sin, as with any sin, will cause them to burn in hell for all eternity only makes it sadder.

The parade is heart wrenching, like mindless livestock headed to the slaughter. You just want to call them back! But they don't listen, they think because the way feels united and strong, it must be good. They're so pleased, as if they affect or change truth, as if they won't really burn in hell because the way is favorable now. They could, and might win every political battle, but they still lose.

Ugh, pro-gay think what makes us sick is some fear. That's not it, nobody's scared of a fool in bondage. What's sickening more than the sin, is the lost soul, that we, through whoever we may be connected to, have failed in some way to convey how wonderful God is. So much so that they choose rather tortuous spirits.

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old comment by Anon-e-moose

"Does this make it official that it's no longer a democracy or was that an obvious a long time ago?"

I dunno, you tell me. But riddle me this:

Ronnie Raygun initially nominated Vaughn Walker to the Californian bench in 1987 (but successfully opposed by 24 Democrat* senators, led by Nancy Pelosi). But was then personally appointed to that same bench by George HW Bush two years later.

Both Repubican presidents voted in by you & your ilk, MellowYellow.

Same Judge Vaughn Walker overturned Prop. 8 recently.

By your own lack of foresight, the ones who ultimately destroyed your own anti-homosexual agenda were you and your right-wing Fundamentalist Christian ilk, MellowYellow.

You helped advance gay rights and equality in the US in ways that not even LGBT people could imagine. Yes, you.

I love the smell of Hubris in the morning. Smells like... victory.

*- Oh the irony, it hurts uss preciousss!

old comment by John

Does this make it official that it's no longer a democracy or was that an obvious a long time ago?

Democracy doesn't mean the majority can vote to do anything it wants. If that were the case, we could all just get together and vote to kill you or take your house away from you because we didn't like your face.

Prop 8 was ruled unconstitutional. People are appealing that decision, but they've been asked to explain why they think they have "standing". In lawsuits, you must have "standing" to challenge a law or decision; meaning you must actually be affected by the decision in some way. You can't just be some bystander. So far, the ones who are challenging it haven't been able to show the judge how they think the decision has harmed them.

old comment by Amadaun

Democracy, despite being a buzzword, isn't actually a synonym for 'good,' unless you believe 'human' is as well. That's why we have laws that protect everyone, not just the people +50% think are worth protecting. That's why lynch mobs are still illegal even if most of the town is in them.

Same. Fucking. Principle.

And personally, I can be pretty scared of a fool in bondage. Scarier than a smart slave, honestly, because they're unlikely to rebel, and therefore their master can use them to do whatever he likes with the force of many men, rather than himself alone.

But...that doesn't apply very well to the LGBT community. Fits a lot better on you.

Ditto the 'must be good because it feels united and strong' thing. I mean, sure gays feel more secure in their sexuality if they have access to supportive communities, but that's not why they're gay. Most churchgoers, on the other hand, are in it primarily for the club membership vibe.

And I don't think anyone believes that their damnation status is changed by the secular legality or illegality of a particular ceremony. Only you think this is rightfully a theocracy.

old comment by dionysus

Does this make it official that it's no longer a democracy or was that an obvious a long time ago?

Democracy=/=mob rule. To illustrate the difference, in a mob rule the majority can vote to make a minority (let's say Chinese people for example) lose their right to vote, put them into slavery, take away their property and their family, and violate their human rights in other ways just because the majority feels like it. This is called the Tyranny of the Majority. A democracy seeks to avoid that. So in our example, say there's a vote passed to take away Chinese people's right to vote and wins by an overwhelming 90%. Even then, it will not stand as one of democracy's functions is to protect the rights of the minority from the whims of the majority. There's a reason we have a constitution an that's to protect minorities from bigots like you.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

Why isn't Christianity a democracy, MellowYellow? Ah, maybe that's why you hate the USA, and everything it stands for: Freedom.

Because if your 'God' was held up to the same standards of decent, civilised society (born of the very thing that makes your country what it is: government of the people, by the people, and for the people ('E Pluribus Unum', 'From Many, One', and all that jazz): Democracy,, then your 'God' would've been deposed centuries ago, and replaced by something superior: a human leader with human (and therefor superior) morals.

Everything you right-wing fundies say, act, and think is precisely why there'll never be a theocracy in the USA.

Not as long as the breath of Freedom is still in the lungs of decent people.

old comment by Pule Thamex

Oh my goodness no, MellowYellow! Whatever gave you the idea that you and your fundamentalist brothers and sisters have not conveyed to us how wonderful God is? But in any case, any lost souls can turn to that ultimate source of holy inspiration, the Bible.

Within its pages the lost souls can read all about God's wonderful adventures among the desert dwellers of the middle east. They can read how expert He is at genocide and how clever He is at inventing means of preventing sin. For instance, just read how clever God is at preventing the child from being cheeky. By utilizing the available populace and several handfuls of the local rocks, He encourages the process of stoning the cheeky child, by which method an important lesson is learned. How could homosexuals fail to be impressed by Christian stories like that?

Fair play though, the fundamentalist outlook is enough to have homosexuals the world over rushing to them to hear their amazing tales of how easy it is to give generously to ones religious authorities. Gosh! It's unbelievable really, I dread to think how you can possibly cope with such overwhelming ardour from lost souls so ultra-keen to learn more of your beguiling aand fascinating Christian ways. Oh please do tell us more, I implore you.

old comment by Ozymandias

"Democracy is not freedom. Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to eat for lunch. Freedom comes from the recognition of certain rights which may not be taken, not even by a 99% vote. Those rights are spelled out in the Bill of Rights and in our California Constitution. Voters and politicians alike would do well to take a look at the rights we each hold, which must never be chipped away by the whim of the majority."

I think this sums things up nicely.

And really, when these people talk about their right to vote being violated they always seem to forget the 48% of people who voted against Prop 8 and didn't get their way. Or does their right to vote not count?

old comment by JSS

"...that we, through whoever we may be connected to, have failed in some way to convey how wonderful God is."

Now remember gays, God loves you, but when he created you he allowed a horrible contamination to happen and now you're stuck with attraction to the same gender as opposed to opposite. Because of this, God sees you as an abomination. He loves you, but he hates, well, your personality, your mind, your heart, the fact that people with your sexual tastes even exist. You have to come to him in humbleness and beg for forgiveness and mercy for something you did not choose, and ask that he change your sexual orientation from filthy to pure, as he can do all things. If he refuses, it means it is not in his will to make you happy or remove the aspect of you that angers him, which is your fault. You must either go to an "ex-gay" center for some Dr. Mengele style shock therapy as well as verbal abuse to break your spirit, or you must live the rest of your life in celebacy and never know the pleasures of an intimate and sexual relationship as you do not deserve them. You must see yourself as more filthy than everyone else, being the target of righteous lies, slurs and hatred, and branded as a contaminated individual unworthy of love or happiness. If your not sorry for the sin of having feelings you can do nothing about, God will have you roasted in hell for all eternity because he loves you.

Isn't he wonderful!

old comment by Wozza

Bullshit. You're a fucking liar. You don't go batshit about all the non-christians worshiping other gods who are all going to hell, you only go batshit about homos 'because they are going to hell'.

What's the difference between how you react to Hindus as opposed to homos? The difference is that you hate homos because you're a bigoted peice of shit who thinks their personal prejudices sould be imposed on others. You use your religious bullshit as a weak justification for your actions because you know very well that your unreasoning hate is incompatable with socially acceptable behaviour in a modern, tolerant, western liberal culture.

And no dipshit, the US was never a democracy. Its a constitutional democracy, i.e. one where the will of the majority is subject to a written constitution. Always was obvious, do try to keep up.

old comment by Ehecatl

Why are religious nut bars so against people just being happy.

This life is the only one you've got. Which do you think would please your god more? Spending your time denying yourself the pleasures in life, spreading hate, lying about who you really are or denying fundamental rights to groups you don't agree with?

Or do you think he would appreciate you spending the short time he gave you on this planet living a fulfilling life? To try out all the wonderful things this world has to offer and making it a better place for everyone else. To just love your fellow man and ensure that everyone is treated fairly and equally regardless of something as trivial as who they decide to have consensual sex with.

Which of these lives would seem to be more in line with what you claim your "compassionate and loving god" is all about?

tl;dr Grow the fuck up.

old comment by Berny

Does this make it official that it's no longer a democracy or was that an obvious a long time ago?

You live in a democratic republic, you fundie moron. That means you get to elect you representative but he or she gets to do whatever they want afterwards. If they're smart, they do what the people who elected them want, to a degree. It's been like that since the Constitution was signed into law.
Now, on to your other delusions.
First, the one about being able to vote peoples rights away. You never had that, even in your democratic republic. It's against the Constitution of the United States, which in essence, overrules your state's constitution.
Second, the one about god and hell. You might believe in that and it may give you some sadistic comfort when you can't get your own way and persecute people whose sexual orientation you find "icky". The reality is it's all a fantasy. No heaven fro you to gloat from, no hell for us to be tormented in.
Have a nice life.

old comment by tmarcl

This whole over turning of Prop 8 thing...

Does this make it official that it's no longer a democracy or was that an obvious a long time ago?

Actually, the U.S. is not a democracy, despite the modern use of the term. In a democracy, the people decide what the law will be based on the will of the majority-much like you suggest here. Our country makes laws that are supposed to be based on the U.S. Constitution-thus the judicial branch reviewing new laws and determining if they're constitutional or not.

If a law is not constitutional, and people still want it, they can petition Congress to add an amendment to the Constitution (like Prohibition, or granting Women's Suffrage), and then the law can be re-submitted.

Yes, I realize that's a gross oversimplification of the process, but it's been awhile since I studied it in High School.

old comment by Swede

This whole overturning of an unconstitutional discriminatory proposition?
You're a constitutional republic based on democratic principles, one of which is Human Rights, asshole!

So very sad indeed, that they will burn in hell beside people who worked on the Sabbath, people who cut their hair and beard, people who wore clothes of mixed fibers, disobedient children, people who ate shellfish, people who grew the wrong kind of crop in the wrong field, people who did not marry and procreate with their brother's widow, etc, etc.

They're attracted to people of the same gender, that is all. It's not something they chose, they were born this way. It's as pointless to "call them back" as to call short people back.

Oh yes, you've failed to convey how wonderful God is, completely. He seems to be a petulant, racist, misogynistic, egocentric nine-year-old. We've yet to hear anything wonderful about him.

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