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As an American Indian I am so blessed that God took this country and set it up to promote freedom of religion. Otherwise our people would still be doing rain dances etc to try to apease the Gods. There was a lot of suffering and disgrace the way the people were treated, but there was a lot of false beliefs too. We had many men of God that wrote the constitution and bill of rights etc that were purposed to a righteoous cause.

Alyssa Miller, NOM facebook page 100 Comments [9/4/2010 9:47:09 AM]
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Brianisha

As a Native American Pagan, I would say you are no longer a Native American. Begone! I never knew you!

9/4/2010 7:02:38 PM

Blasphemina

Failed in the first sentence.

9/4/2010 7:36:32 PM

Zeus Almighty

@ The Lazy One

"Why are you defending the attempted genocide of your people? Why!?"

Sometimes you have to destroy a village to "save" it.

@ Percy Q. Shunn

I'd also worship that ass.

9/4/2010 7:48:32 PM

JSS

"As an American Indian I am so blessed that God took this country and set it up to promote freedom of religion."

Um, no, I think it was a group of people known as the Founding Fathers.

"There was a lot of suffering and disgrace the way the people were treated, but there was a lot of false beliefs too."

You do know you're justifying the torture and murder of many of your own race, including women and children right?

9/4/2010 7:59:40 PM

Neserit

Well, looks like someone's trying very hard to win the Uncle Ruckus of the Year award.

9/4/2010 9:42:40 PM

pete

I think that Alyssa is a fuckin' liar. I suppose it's possible that her great-great-great Grandpappy might have raped a squaw but none of the many members of the First Tribes I know, including Christians, would ever call themselves "American Indians". My guess is that she just watched too many old Westerns.

9/4/2010 9:59:55 PM

Boy Wonder

How does the cognitive dissonance of that statement not just slice her in half?

9/4/2010 10:04:29 PM

Smurfette Principle

As an American Indian I am so blessed that God took this country and set it up to promote freedom of religion.

Oh, that's gre- what? God didn't take America and set up our government. People, most of them Deists, set up our government. Also, would it not be against God's agenda to promote freedom of religions that were not his? You know, "The Lord your God is a jealous God, and you shall have no other Gods before me"?

Otherwise our people would still be doing rain dances etc to try to apease the Gods.

There has to be a word for "mixture of sympathy, pity, and utter horror."

9/4/2010 10:06:11 PM

Creedence Leonore Gielgud

"*Windian--usually used to refer to people from OK or KS with just enough Indian ancestry to get a CDIB card, but who anyone else would just call white."

Nice. Very nice indeed. Do you take similar issue with other biracial people? I have two cousins whose father is black. What cruel, and insensitive name would you call them? Oreos? You know black on the outside but all white on the inside.

They live in North Alabama, so they unfortunately get to look forward to a lifetime, of not measuring up to the standards of loud, opinionated assholes.

9/4/2010 10:38:36 PM

GodotIsWaiting4U

Wow.

You are completely self-loathing.

Also, freedom of religion ALLOWS your rain dances and shit. So GO AHEAD AND DO THEM. If you want to, that is.

9/4/2010 10:40:13 PM

Musicalbookworm

@Credence

For the record, I have no problems with multi-racial (or as Jane Elliot prefers Mosaic because there is only one race--human) people. My sister is married to an AA man and my nephew is therefore mosaic. I had never heard the term until one of the student at my university used the term to refer to himself. It is my understanding the term is more playful and acknowledging reality than anything insulting. The NA equivalent to Oreo is Apple BTW and has a different connotation.

9/5/2010 12:23:34 AM

EllwyenDarwin

As an American Indian(Blackfoot) who is proud of her heritage all I have to say is,fuck you.

9/5/2010 12:33:06 AM

SleepNeed

As an American Indian I am so blessed that God took this country and set it up to promote freedom of religion.

Yes, what's a little genocide, stealing lands, violating human rights, and several treaties over the years. Plus I know of many Native Americans, most would never call themselves an "American Indian."

Otherwise our people would still be doing rain dances etc to try to apease [sic] the Gods.

Some people still do the traditional worship of Native Americans. Hell, I would be surprised if there was nobody still worshiping the gods of Ancient Greece or Egypt.

There was a lot of suffering and disgrace the way the people were treated, but there was a lot of false beliefs too.

So because they didn't worship the Christian god, they deserved genocide, land stolen, rape, discrimination and other atrocities by people and the government? Disgusting.

We had many men of God that wrote the constitution [sic] and bill of rights [sic] etc that were purposed to a righteoous [sic] cause.

You ignored two histories in your post, the history of the treatment of the Native Americans, and the history of the United States. In the history of the United States, while it's true that some of the men where religious, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights do NOT set up the stage for a Christian nation.

9/5/2010 1:28:55 AM

Freethink

@musicalbookworm:

I believe I understand the expression "apple". I have a pretty good idea of its meaning. Very appropriate and to the point. I shall definitely remember it, next time I cross paths with an "apple".

9/5/2010 3:40:06 AM

The L

This is so wrong, I don't even know where to begin.

9/5/2010 3:48:37 AM

Wozza

I find it difficult to express the disgust I feel for you. Your trivialisation of the suffering endured by Indigenous Indians in the Americas is sickening, let alone that you are so obviously happy for those people to have suffered such misery and underserved death, as long as it means that you get to have your God.


9/5/2010 4:50:33 AM

The Jamo

Yes, the one true god set up a country to promote freedom of religion.

[facepalm]

9/5/2010 5:25:50 AM

Think or GTFO

Yeah, it sure was nice of those colonists and settlers to come over there with their lebensraum shit. I mean, how horrible if you would dance to the gods instead of mumbling to him like you do now.

9/5/2010 8:07:16 AM

Iczer-Four

lying for Jesus i see..

9/5/2010 8:56:18 AM

shykid

@Creedence Leonore Gielgud: That slur is not about their mixed background or their white ancestry. Rather, it's about "Windians" (or "CDIBians" as I call 'em) not taking any interest in their Native American ancestry except to receive benefits for it.

There can be 100% Native Americian "CDIBians", just as there can be Native American "non-CDIBians" who are less than full-blooded. Take myself for example: I'm roughly a little more than half Native American, and I am fascinated by my Native background, but I am not claiming any benefits, despite having a CDIB proving my eligibility.

But don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that it's wrong to get those entitlements, but simply that receiving them are the only interest "CDIBians" have in their Native ancestry. It means little more than a handout to them, even if they don't "need" one to get by--or they even outright think their Native heritage is "silly" and "primitive".

9/5/2010 8:56:35 AM



In her defense regarding the "American Indian" my husband is 1/8th and grew up on the reservation calling himself an Indian most of the time. This reservation might be uncommon but most people here have no issue with either term.

I have never heard ANYONE here say that what was done to the tribes was good no matter how Christian they are. This happens to be a tribe with little culture left thanks to the schools so if anyone would be glad to be Christian it would be these people.

And many Christian Natives also dance at pow-wows and stuff.

9/5/2010 10:45:01 AM

Gyeong Hwa Pak

Lots of people claim to be American Indain. Would you care to specify which tribe you're from?

FWIW, the California Natives that I've met don't share your sentiments.

9/5/2010 10:50:31 AM





@Mudak
like this?

9/5/2010 11:18:28 AM

Prayster

Praise Be For Hardships or Thanks For Nothing

O my good dear Lord, I thank you very much indeed for my hallowed insanity and hope you hear my humble prayer.
Most Noble God, it is with great gratitude that I bow down and worship you in your skies, for giving us the incredible gift of European diseases, our enormous loss and suffering is worthy testament to your glorious existence.
Please, O Fabulous Sky King, I entreat thee, if thou canst find it in thy flinty heart of so much solidity and rocky durability, I ask thee to visit massive damnations on our various damn nations.
If it please you, my Lord, may I arise from the dust where I grovel unseemly, and take myself to the bondage shop that I may purchase many flails and whips with which to castigate myself and endure much self flagellation.
Thanks for all your glorious hardships O Favoured One. And special thanks for allowing the sublime blight of paleface terrorism abroad your lovely Western India of America.

Amen

9/5/2010 1:47:13 PM

SpukiKitty

Percy Q. Shunn sez....

"I'm glad I get to worship as I choose, as well.

I worship this ass..." (pic of pretty girl on motorcycle)

I'm afraid I don't see a donkey in that picture...

"I worship this hot gal."

Fixed.








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