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"Congress shall make no laws respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;" - 1st Ammendment
What exactly don't you understand about this basic principle of freedom, livius?
9/7/2010 5:46:43 AM
Actually, Islamic nations were at the forefront of scientific research in the middle ages
9/7/2010 6:04:06 AM
Insane Death cult.
So that's what I.D. stands for. Makes sense now.
9/7/2010 6:08:15 AM
The Koran, in case you didn't know, says to only Jihad those who've ALREADY wronged you for "Allah does not love the aggressors". So mulsim extremist terrorist are ignoring parts of their holy book just like you fundies do when you call for the death of people you don't like. Guess you're not so different afterall.
9/7/2010 6:21:43 AM
Remember, "jihad" is part of their religion and their scriptures, not just something alleged radicals dreamed up. Islam has been this way for 1400 years and it will be this way until it is wiped off the face of the earth in the final battle.
So to sum up; Jihad bad, "final battle" good?
9/7/2010 6:40:32 AM
No. It's completely unconstitutional. But, if you want to be consistent, you should also be demanding to kick out members of the other death cult: Christianity. They too worship death (at least the death of Jesus) and they too don't get their supposed reward until after death.
9/7/2010 6:41:46 AM
So you don't believe in freedom. Gotcha.
9/7/2010 6:43:22 AM
> My view used to be more moderate - that is, I didn't really think Muslims shouldn't be allowed to live in this country or participate in politics - but almost five years of watching their behavior since 9/11 has made me wonder why we permit them to enter our country even to study.
"My views used to be more moderate - more along the lines of Goebbels - but over the years I've become far more of a Hitler kind of guy."
(Let's just get the Nazi baggage out of the door before anything evil happens, mm?)
My point: When you discuss your extremism, please use a bit more granularity. Otherwise, people may not notice how much your craziness has shifted over the time. It's still the same ball of craziness it was a while ago.
> and all Muslims are essentially primed and ready to become vicious killers as soon as they get the signal. This has nothing to do with their countries or where they come from
Yeah, and obviously all Christians are Glennbeckites who think their holy and sacred mission is to hide in the mountains from the tribulations of FEMA goons and prepare to assassinate Obama when the time is ripe. (Yes, even Christians outside the US. Even in countries without mountains. Or countries without time.)
9/7/2010 6:54:41 AM
"Islam is an insane death cult that wants to drag us all back to the 7th century, it has always been a backwards and insane death cult (even in the 8th century!), and all Muslims are essentially primed and ready to become vicious killers as soon as they get the signal. "
9/7/2010 7:36:52 AM
Islam and Christianity are very similar, when you actually read the texts. If Islam is an insane death cult, then so is Christianity. Christianity did its best during the Dark Ages to drag us all back to the 7th century. During the Dark Ages, it was the Muslims who made the scientific advances.
I just read a post by a Clete, who was primed and ready to become a vicious killer as soon as he heard it was OK to kill homos. He was a Christian.
So, you want to turn the US from the bastion of freedom and democracy it wants to be perceived as, into a Theocracy that would make Saudi Arabia envious. Nice!
9/7/2010 7:41:44 AM
Islam...will be this way until it is wiped off the face of the earth in the final battle.
If this should happen in my lifetime, don't expect me to lift a finger helping the Christians "wipe Islam off" because, as an agnostic, I don't give a shit about any religion.
9/7/2010 8:04:31 AM
it's the insane death cult they belong to that makes them incapable of living with the rest of us.
Quoted for truth.
Applies to Muslims too.
9/7/2010 8:06:28 AM
Allegory for Jesus
"Islam is an insane death cult that wants to drag us all back to the 7th century, it has always been a backwards and insane death cult (even in the 8th century!), and all Muslims are essentially primed and ready to become vicious killers as soon as they get the signal."
Those who live in glass houses...
9/7/2010 8:43:52 AM
"- but almost five years of watching their behavior since 9/11 has made me wonder why we permit them to enter our country even to study"
You know you should stop staring at people. Nobody likes that sorta crazy peeping tom shit (an exaggeration - Doggers not included).
"all Muslims are essentially primed and ready to become vicious killers as soon as they get the signal."
Muslim =/= pod people/stepford wives/manchurian candidates etc. (notice any fiction lately?)
9/7/2010 8:50:12 AM
Almost 5 years since 2001, eh?
9/7/2010 8:50:32 AM
If your logic were observed as you wish, so would conservative Christians. Remember Timothy MacVeigh?
9/7/2010 9:37:17 AM
What about the O.T. laws, and Matthew 5;17-20? If any religion is an insane death cult, it's Christianity. Yet, no one is trying to ban Christianity, and not all Muslims are primed to become murderers; you're just dumb enough to buy the Christian/Conservative stereotype.
9/7/2010 10:06:39 AM
They have the first amendment. Also that isn't a moderate position to take, it shows you had already had prejudices and hatred before 9/11 and use 9/11 to justify it now
9/7/2010 11:10:45 AM
I think that fundies like you are more dangerous to the world that Muslim extremist. Simply due to the fact that a lot of Muslims are fleeing their often theocratic countries to life in a democratic country and you want to change the democracies into theocracies and to want a regime that has more in common with the third Reich then Iran. You're then far more dangerous to the human race with your controle of nuclear weapons and high-tech armies
9/7/2010 11:11:13 AM
Your first view was moderate?!
9/7/2010 11:25:54 AM
Don't feel bad. Christians are a better insane death cult because they've been at it longer.
9/7/2010 12:46:30 PM
Excluding members of an entire religion from living here or voting is moderate to you people?
So much for the First Amendment...
9/7/2010 1:04:48 PM
Funny, the same can be said -- and rightfully so -- about Christianity.
9/7/2010 1:25:04 PM
5 years since 9/11? Must be that home school math.
9/7/2010 2:10:35 PM
I read about the afterlife
"Islam is an insane death clut that wants to drag us all back to the 7th century"
Mirror, mirror on the wall!
9/7/2010 2:15:07 PM