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Homos are guilty of more than a mere sin, they are guilty of a capital crime. (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:26-32). Being a homo isn't merely about a perverted sexual act. Homos erode the very fabric of the whole of society, both morally and socially via issues including but not limited to the spread of various diseases, child molestation, drug use, domestic violence, adultery, murder and suicide.

As such, Christians should not treat homos as though they've stolen a grape from the grocery store, or used a curse word in mixed company. They should be treated essentially the same way one would expect to treat a rapist or murderer.

In short, Christians should approach issues of moral crimes with the following three pronged approach.

1. Advocate the re-criminalization of such crimes as adultery and homosexuality and that such crimes should be punishable by death.

2. Impose, as much as possible, a social stigma to these behaviors.

3. Encourage repentance of individual offenders.
The order of those three points is intentional. Point one effects an entire society, point two effects the immediate circle of influence of those imposing the social stigma (usually at most a neighborhood or town) and point three effects single individuals.

Clete, Theology Online 83 Comments [9/7/2010 6:03:38 AM]
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agentCDE

So saving eternal souls explicitly comes AFTER slaughtering people for daring to get laid more than you. How very fucking Christ-like of you. Jesus weeps.

9/7/2010 6:09:52 AM

Boudicca

Ahh, feel the Christian love ...

9/7/2010 6:15:34 AM

TGRwulf

Yep, that's the Christian way alright. Slaughtering those who are different then us for 2000 years.

9/7/2010 6:19:50 AM

Big Jilm

So basically, you want a Theocracy and are totally anti-freedom? Why do you hate America?

9/7/2010 6:33:59 AM

NyogaAnimos


I DO NOT have any diseases, I DO NOT molest children, I DO NOT use, or really approve of, drugs, the only violence I have ever engaged in was self-defense, on adultry, when we are monogamous we tend to not cheat on who we are with, I Have NEVER killed or plan to, and its only because of people like you that many LGBT youth do commit suicide. I myself tried it because I was ashamed of being who I am, and wanted your 'god' to like me as I was Christian at that point.

An now onto your idiotic points,

1.Don't you realize that if you do re-criminalize adultery, most of your friends and family would be guilty of it?

2. All the social stigmata will do is up the suicide rate.

3. This point is useless for people of other faiths.

9/7/2010 6:34:26 AM

Johannes9126

4. DIAF.
Oh, is this two different fabrics you are wearing? Then it will not be fire, it will be stoning...

9/7/2010 6:35:57 AM

Table Rock

Saudia Arabia already beat you to it. Shall I book you a flight?

9/7/2010 6:45:28 AM

nutbunny

Oh, I don't like Clete mummy.
Let's burn him, and his little book too

9/7/2010 6:48:38 AM

Swede

You need to read up on Leviticus and Deuternomony, Clety-boy. There are many other acts that are graver sins than homosexuality.
As there are many many more heterosexuals, all of those issues (diseases, child molestation, drug use, domestic violence, adultery, murder and suicide) are much more common among heterosexuals.
According to your logic, homosexuals should be treated as those who wear clothes of mixed fabrics, eat shellfish or work on the Sabbath.

Why not introduce Sharia Laws while you're at it. You know you want to, Clete.

9/7/2010 6:48:41 AM

schism

Well, Cletus the Slack-Jawed Christian, I would actually encourage you get more of your fellow godbots to advocate your plan for sex regulation, as the more Christians act like petulant theocrats, the less people will take you seriously as a political force, thus preventing you from ever enacting your bigotry.

Plus, you look like idiots. That's always good.

9/7/2010 7:04:40 AM

Justanotheratheist

Sorry for you, but what Leviticus wrote carries no weight in the secular world in which you live. Society has changed a tad since old Levi did his scribbling thing and you really should get used to it.

9/7/2010 7:05:02 AM

shykid

"Homos erode the very fabric of the whole of society, both morally and socially via issues including but not limited to the spread of various diseases, child molestation, drug use, domestic violence, adultery, murder and suicide."




9/7/2010 7:10:24 AM

Starscream

So in short, you're a homophobic waste of space and you'd feel better if the rest of the world was too? Gotcha. Now fuck off.

9/7/2010 7:19:16 AM

John_in_Oz

At the going rate of a billion dollars per death penalty, your GDP can't afford to execute the adulterers of Fairbanks, Alaska.

9/7/2010 7:20:47 AM

Mister Spak

Christian are are guilty of more than assholery, they are guilty of treason( constitution, 1st amendment). Being a christian isn't merely about a criminal act. Christians erode the very fabric of the whole of America, both morally and legally via issues including but not limited to the spread of various superstitions, alter boy molestation, diseases, meth use with gay hookers, murder on fences and wide stances in airport mens rooms.

9/7/2010 7:21:50 AM

dionysus

Homos are guilty of more than a mere sin, they are guilty of a capital crime.

No they're not. The US and every other Western nation has no such law against homosexuality.

(Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:26-32)

Oh, Leviticus? Does that mean we should arrest people who eat at Red Lobster and wear clothes (since most clothes are made of mixed fabrics, hell, even underwear has elastic in it)? Does that mean we should bring back slavery and allow masters to beat their slaves (so long as the slaves don't die immediately as a result)?

Homos erode the very fabric of the whole of society, both morally and socially via issues including but not limited to the spread of various diseases, child molestation, drug use, domestic violence, adultery, murder and suicide.

Straight people do all of that too.

Advocate the re-criminalization of such crimes as adultery and homosexuality and that such crimes should be punishable by death.

Because "love thy neighbor" and "turn the other cheek" are so passé.

Impose, as much as possible, a social stigma to these behaviors

Personally I think there should be a strong social stigma against being a bigot. And unlike homosexuality it's something that can be changed.

Encourage repentance of individual offenders

Repent for what? Being born a certain way?

9/7/2010 7:27:18 AM

WWBFD

"The order of those three points is intentional"

So 'offenders' should be encouraged to repent, but not until after they've been killed?

9/7/2010 7:34:28 AM

JSS

"Homos are guilty of more than a mere sin, they are guilty of a capital crime. (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:26-32)."

Oh, I'm sorry, I kinda guessed that in 21st century America we didn't follow all the rediculous purity laws throughout Leviticus and the Old Testament.


"both morally and socially via issues including but not limited to the spread of various diseases, child molestation, drug use, domestic violence, adultery, murder and suicide."

Actually, sexual disease is caused by carelessness, promiscuity, and risky sexual acts, not gender of the partners, although you'll probably never grasp that logic. More child molesters are in fact hetero. Maybe you should actually put up an argument against homosexuality instead of generalizing and stereotyping homosexuals.

"They should be treated essentially the same way one would expect to treat a rapist or murderer."

You know what murderers and rapists have in common that homosexuals don't? Victims.

"1. Advocate the re-criminalization of such crimes as adultery and homosexuality and that such crimes should be punishable by death."

Maybe such advocates like yourself would be more comfortable in a Iranian torture chamber? They don't allow homosexuality.

"2. Impose, as much as possible, a social stigma to these behaviors."

Ah yes, the christian virtue of bearing false witness.

"3. Encourage repentance of individual offenders."

Well yes, christians who violate a gay person's rights should be sorry.

9/7/2010 7:58:02 AM

taite

I know this is beside the point but...what's wrong with cursing in "mixed company"?

9/7/2010 8:05:12 AM

schism

I know this is beside the point but...what's wrong with cursing in "mixed company"?

Frail girl minds can't tolerate bad language without fainting or something. Religious white knighting, basically.

9/7/2010 8:13:07 AM

Allegory for Jesus

-Sex in general spreads disease. If homosexuality is immoral because of that, all sex is immoral.
-Sex between consenting adults =/= Sex with children.
-Drug use is 1. not inherently immoral and 2. has no logical connection with homosexuality. Same with adultery and suicide.
-Executing people for the "crime" of being homosexual because you think that homosexuality is related to other crimes? I hope that you are no legislator. Also: DIAF.

9/7/2010 8:14:52 AM

Moondog

It's pointless and impossible for individual offenders to repent after they've been put to death, isn't it? Your little fantasy just fell apart.

9/7/2010 8:15:16 AM

christian leftie

Leviticus: Can only apply IF you're going to enforce the Jewish Holiness Code. Please get your logic straight.

Romans: Makes the homosexual acts a sin only if the nature of the actor is to be heterosexual. As homosexuality occurs in nature and is not a deliberately acquired trait, this cannot be substantiated. Thus it would be a sin to act straight if you are gay.

Even if you accept that homosexual acts are a sin without the absence of any such content in the Bible, your solutions are counter to Christ's teachings of love, acceptance, tolerance, compassion, forgiveness, etc.

The bible showed that Jesus worked entirely on individuals, so why would you feel the need to go even further against his example?

9/7/2010 8:25:30 AM

breakerslion

Combat soldiers and politicians are guilty of more than a mere sin, they are guilty of a capital crime. (Exodus 20-15, 17). Being an aggressor isn't merely about a violent act. Combatants erode the very fabric of the whole of society, both morally and socially via issues including but not limited to the destruction of personal property, disruption of social services, famine, collateral damage, murder and suicide.

As such, Christians should not treat combatants as though they've stolen a grape from the grocery store, or used a curse word in mixed company. They should be treated essentially the same way one would expect to treat a rapist or murderer.

In short, Christians should approach issues of moral crimes with the following three pronged approach.

1. Advocate the re-criminalization of such crimes as making war and killing and that such crimes should be punishable by death.

2. Impose, as much as possible, a social stigma to these behaviors.

3. Encourage repentance of individual offenders (before you put them to death so they might enter Happy Land).

The order of those three points is intentional. Point one effects an entire society, point two effects the immediate circle of influence of those imposing the social stigma (usually at most a neighborhood or town) and point three effects single individuals.

Your priorities are insane because you are insane. Cardinal sin (alleged) =|= Capital crime either, for that matter.

9/7/2010 8:31:13 AM

Headache

Sooooo... Clete you are gay, eh?

Try to come out rather then hate yourself, seek help - see a shrink!

9/7/2010 8:33:38 AM
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