did u ever read the Quran well ? it really has scientific proves that link the Creator and his creations...
Since some weeks ago, at least three new findings refuting the evolution. how did u know there is a prove ? gosh. did einstein believe in evolution ? lol did darwin knew abt relativity or DNA...
keep believing that ur monkey, it is becomes more stupid lol
evolution is collapsed so why naive nasty people keep believing in it ?
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Firstly, learn grammar. And spelling. It will help you look less moronic.
Second, CITATION NEEDED!!
iz it can be grammar tiemz now plz?
Really, how do people expect to be taken seriously when they can't be bothered to use anything even resembling proper grammar?
Really. I'm not one to talk. People hear me speak and automatically knock off about a hundred thousand IQ points solely on accent and dialect. But DAMN. I can still write in passing grammar when making an argument.
This guy needs to learn that.
I don't have too much of a problem with his English grammar. It's vastly better than my Arabic.
However, to asnwer the question:
People, naive, nasty or otherwise, don't 'believe' in evolution, they judge it to be true on the basis of evidence.
That evidence comes from mathematics, genetics, ecology, geology, medicine, chemistry, organic chemistry, anthropology, zoology, common experience with selective breeding both for particular varieies and for farming, biology, molecular biology, Paleobiology, embryology and physiology, among others.
Any one of these fields is in principle capable of providing evidence that disproves evolution. The fact that none of them have done so is widely judged to be because the theory is true.
Only religious nutters these days doubt the truth of evolution. Sadly, they lie to you.
First I was thinking, "Well, not a native speaker." Then I saw "jane" and was thinking, "Well, perhaps from a muslim county that doesn't educate their girls."
Then I saw the whole screen name "mr. lardjane" and I'm calling troll or poe, depending on perspective.
Your grammar is collapsing, Mr Lardjane. Nice name, by the way.
Nope, I read the Qur'an rather poorly.
If the ToE had been refuted, I'd guess it would be front page news.
No, Darwin did not know about DNA.
Not monkeys, stupid; apes.
Ooh, word salad.
In fairness to the guy, he is a Muslim, so he may very well not be a native speaker of English, but what I got out of this quote is still WTF-worthy...
"But as Deepak Chopra taught us, quantum physics means that anything can happen at anytime and for no reason. Also, eat plenty of oatmeal, and animals never had a war! Who is the real animal?" -Prof. Hubert J. Farnsworth
I'm not one for prescriptive grammar, even if I do get twitchy over apostrophes. How you communicate is important, but not as important as what you have to say. But when your grammar degrades to the point that your sentences make no sense, and what you have to say is drowned in a well of confusion? Then you have failed.
Cool. List some of these findings.
As for the Qu'ran, name ONE scientific thing about it.
Einstein most likely DID accept evolution, by the way. Darwin did not, however, know about relativity or DNA, because neither had been discovered at the time. He didn't know about genetics, either, but genetics and DNA have both fleshed out and supported Darwin's theories; they show him to be right.
Funny thing about people saying evolution has collapsed; they've been saying it for 150 years and it's never once been true.
Finally: "it is becomes more stupid" I can taste the irony.
I have literally no idea what the bloody hell you are talking about.
Next time you want to communicate with the world at large (or even Y!) I'd suggest improving your spelling, punctuation and grammar. Additionally, and probably most importantly, it is essential that you have a point, and make it.
If you believing the Quran proves that link the Creator and his creations, except it was Jesus and his dad who did it. The muslim religion is not scientific like the science bible text book which proving Christian God created muslims as well. I have cause for complaint at excessive drooling but have cause to be grateful to God for creating excessive drooling. That just goes to prove atheists and muslims are both wrong. It proves that God created everything. The atheist God didn,t and the muslim god didn't. You must be ignorant. You should convert to Christianity and the true science of God. You probably can't help being stupid lol, lmfao, sac
Did you ever read the Koran well, or did you, like so many millions of Muslims, just memorize and recite it in an Arabic you neither speak nor understand?
1) I'm hoping that you're not a native English speaker, and that's why this is so poorly written. In the future, before you call someone stupid, you might want to make sure you yourself don't appear stupid first.
2) Everything you've said is wrong. Evolution hasn't been refuted. I promise you, if it had been, it would be in the news. The scientist who successfully refutes evolution will win the Nobel Prize at the very least.
3) The Quran, the Bible, the Torah - all state that they're the infallible word of god. The fact that the Torah spawned two completely different theologies tends to refute that concept, thus bringing the rest of it's credibility into question.
Notice he doesn't actually say what those >= 3 new findings are. Y'know, because there fucking aren't any?
Although 'has scientific proves' would be an ok meme.
SHOOT YOUR COMPUTER! Put the poor thing out of its misery.
But, sad to say, I think this is a mere poe/troll.
Odd name aside, he is likely not a native speaker so can be forgiven imperfect grammar.
For those unsure of the context of why he is talking about scientific proofs, it is common for Muslims to see the perfection of the Quran as validated through what is says about the world (in their interpretation) that science has shown to be true. For example:
http://www.islam-guide.com/ch1-1.htm
Also, to tmarcl, Judaism does not claim that Torah to be infallible like Christianity and Islam. In fact, Judaism states that without proper study (i.e. reading the Bible alone is not enough) it will certainly be misunderstood, hence the Trinity (among others).
Sorry, I refuse to have an intelligent debate with someone obviously lacking intelligence. Learn how to type with proper grammar, punctuation, spelling, and Capitalization and then we'll talk.
@SeekerLancer:
He is saying:
1) Evolution isn't scientifically valid / true both because it goes against the Quran and because there are supposed "new findings" which refute it
2) Creationism IS scientifically valid / true because it was spoken of in the Quran which has other scientifically accurate statements hence anything it says is scientifically valid / true
"it really has scientific proves that link the Creator and his creations..."
is this before or after it claims that "the sun sets in a muddy bank in the west"?
there is absolutely nothing scientific in the koran
To quote a friend of mine at the Vatican Observatory:
"The Bible is not a science textbook, and it is a mistake to treat it like one."
The same applies to the Qur’an, and the Torah, and the Hindu gitas, and the Buddhist sutras.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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