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The bedrock of this civilization, and of Jewish life, has been the centrality and purity of family life. But the family is not a natural unit so much as it is a value that must be cultivated and protected. The Greeks assaulted the family in the name of beauty and Eros. The Marxists assaulted the family in the name of progress. And today, gay liberation assaults it in the name of compassion and equality. I understand why gays would do this. Life has been miserable for many of them. What I have not understood was why Jews or Christians would join the assault. I do now. They do not know what is at stake. At stake is our civilization.

It is very easy to forget what Judaism has wrought and what Christians have created in the West. But those who loathe this civilization never forget. The radical Stanford University faculty and students who recently chanted, "Hey, hey, ho, ho, Western civ has got to go," were referring to much more than their university's syllabus. And no one is chanting that song more forcefully than those who believe and advocate that sexual behavior doesn't play a role in building or eroding civilization. The acceptance of homosexuality as the equal of heterosexual marital love signifies the decline of Western civilization as surely as the rejection of homosexuality and other nonmarital sex made the creation of this civilization possible.

Dennis Prager, OrthodoxyToday.org 43 Comments [9/13/2010 3:48:01 AM]
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nutbunny

"At stake is our civilization"

Hyperbole. The question is HOW?!

How would homosexuality destroy civilisation? How?
And don't come up with a "just because", otherwise you'll get a fucking slap across the back of your head.

9/13/2010 3:57:04 AM

DarkfireTaimatsu

Acceptance of a wide variety is more civilised, not less.

9/13/2010 4:12:06 AM

London Jew

Idiot frummer. (But I repeat myself). You do know those goy fundies you are cosying up to really hate you, don't you?

My grandfather always said it was easy to tell who were the Real True Christians. They were the ones leading the pogrom.

9/13/2010 4:23:04 AM

Mister Spak

"The acceptance of homosexuality as the equal of heterosexual marital love signifies the decline of Western civilization as surely as the rejection of homosexuality and other nonmarital sex made the creation of this civilization possible."

All this started when 7 unelected judical activists decreed that nigges could marry white women.

9/13/2010 4:42:31 AM

London Jew

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Not Mister Spak. He can spell, fuckwit.

9/13/2010 6:26:15 AM

Pup

What exactly is going to happen if homosexual marriage is legalised? Do you think that 'normal' marriages are just going to fall apart or something?

9/13/2010 6:26:32 AM

breakerslion

"I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids." - Gen. Jack D. Ripper, Dr. Strangelove

9/13/2010 6:43:24 AM

SeekerLancer

Who would have guessed love would destroy our civilization!

9/13/2010 6:51:44 AM

Doubting Thomas

Oh noes! People having sex are destoying the country!

Spoken like a person who's not getting any.

9/13/2010 6:53:19 AM

dionysus

No, it's worse than that, it'll bring about the end of the universe! The second gay marriage becomes acceptable in society all stars will go supernova and a giant black hole will swallow everything in existence back into a singularity.

9/13/2010 7:05:30 AM

GodotIsWaiting4U

Beauty! Progress! Compassion! Why are you opposed to all these wonderful things?

9/13/2010 7:29:57 AM

Doctor Whom

Rewrite history much? Western civilization is largely a product of those Greeks whom you malign. Indeed, Greek philosophy had a huge effect on some of the great Jewish sages.

9/13/2010 7:33:05 AM

TGRwulf

Yeah 'cause all those other nations that have legalized gay marriage have been decimated. Oh wait...

9/13/2010 7:53:36 AM



Why is it that all these fundies can talk about is gay people?

9/13/2010 8:37:41 AM

Wozza

Someone is thinking about sex way too much.

9/13/2010 9:04:38 AM

Blasphemina

I don't even know if it's possible to assault anything in the name of equality and compassion.

9/13/2010 9:51:26 AM

Swede

Nooooooooo! Not progress, not compassion, not equality! Nooooo!

9/13/2010 10:31:09 AM

freako104

How is it destroying civilisation? I have yet to be affected by it and I have gay friends. I still see no destruction anywhere

9/13/2010 11:02:22 AM

Neith

"But the family is not a natural unit"

Then we should outlaw families!


"And today, gay liberation assaults it in the name of compassion and equality. I understand why gays would do this. Life has been miserable for many of them."

You make it miserable for them. Wanting compassion and equality (basically, to be left alone so they can live in peace) isn't an assault on anything.


"What I have not understood was why Jews or Christians would join the assault."

Because they realize it's not an assault.


"The acceptance of homosexuality as the equal of heterosexual marital love signifies the decline of Western civilization as surely as the rejection of homosexuality and other nonmarital sex made the creation of this civilization possible."

Homosexuality and nonmarital sex have been around even longer than humanity, yet civilization still exists.

9/13/2010 11:08:48 AM

Old Viking

Sex is a pleasurable diversion, not the linchpin of civilization.

9/13/2010 11:49:19 AM

Hive

Straight sex makes civilization possible?

9/13/2010 1:43:20 PM

Vince

You still haven't said how any of that works. Just because you say shit doesn't make it true (At this rate I should make a key for that phrase alone).

For the love of fuck, WHY does homosexuality endanger civilisation? At least pretend you have an answer.

Just once.

9/13/2010 2:27:31 PM

John_in_Oz

No, after opposing it to the last gasp, you do not get to claim the benefits of the civilisations of the Ancient Greeks and Romans, the enlightenment and the Age of Reason. These are not things you can claim for Christianity or Jewry.

9/13/2010 4:21:39 PM

Jeff Weskamp

The Greeks assaulted the family in the name of beauty and Eros.

Greek civilization fully accepted homosexuality for many centuries, Dennis, until it became Christianized. And yet, they maintained their family structures, they didn't stop practiving heterosexual sex altogether and become extinct. And, they were one of the most sophisticated cultures in existence during the 1st Millenium BC.

9/13/2010 5:35:48 PM

Atomic Flamethrowing Vagina

Dennis Prager? Isn't he the one who advocated for marital rape?

Pretty sure your opinion on the deterioration of Western civilization is invalid.

9/13/2010 7:53:10 PM
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