Quote# 76030

Gay men account for over 80% of all new AIDS cases every year in AUSTRALIA, this stat never changes. LEGALIZE GAY MARRIAGE, and you may as well LEGALIZE MURDER (so much for LOVE). It's never going to be curable, unless the Climate Change Wizards get onto this one as well. It's totally irresponsible and is as old as L...OT -(gr8 man)-. DON'T LEGALIZE AIDS PROCUREMENT and the things that kill life. Instead create LIFE by not turning Marriage into a total LIE!!! GO MAN and GO WOMAN! IT ACTUALLY WORKZ!!! BLESS! PEACE! OUT.

Mark Mcfarlane, Facebook-Protect Marriage:One Man, One Woman 66 Comments [9/13/2010 6:26:10 AM]
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London Jew

Yeah, cos like, no heterosexual marriages ever go wrong, or give each other STDs, or shit.

9/13/2010 6:28:03 AM

Jezebel's Evil Sister

Citation bloody well needed. I think you are a liar.

Also, what does allowing intimate partners to commit to a monogamous relationship in legal marriage have to do with spreading a disease???

9/13/2010 6:34:52 AM




But seriously, you're just grumpy and icked out by gay sex, that's your problem. Alcohol and spousal abuse can destroy marriages. It is not possible for a same sex marriage to destroy Marriage - with a capital M. They might have the ability to destroy their own marriage but not Marriage as an overarching concept.
There is no easy way to destroy Marriage.I've asked before but it bears repeating. HOW?

People who say or imply that marriage is rendered pointless and/or non-functional by allowing same sex marriage never elaborate on how Marriage can be rendered pointless.
Keep asking and you WILL inevitably end up with "Ewwww" and "Gawd said so".


9/13/2010 6:37:38 AM

Doubting Thomas

What makes these people think that if gay marriage is kept outlawed, gay men will not have sex?

9/13/2010 6:45:47 AM


"It's totally irresponsible and is as old as L...OT -(gr8 man)"

A man who offered his daughters up for gang rape is 'gr8'?

The anti-gay, broken record crowd is void of any intelligence or morality aren't they?

9/13/2010 6:51:15 AM


"Gay men account for over 80% of all new AIDS cases every year in AUSTRALIA, this stat never changes."

Then surely it wouldn't have been too much trouble to cite your source for this.

"LEGALIZE GAY MARRIAGE, and you may as well LEGALIZE MURDER (so much for LOVE)."


Makes about as much sense as what you're claiming.

"It's never going to be curable, unless the Climate Change Wizards get onto this one as well."

It's already nearing that stage, jackass. There are multiple effective treatments that can suppress the HIV so that it either never becomes AIDS or extends the time quite a bit prior to that. AIDS itself is also treatable now. Last I heard, there were even some vaccines that were nearing a usable state.

So shut the fuck up.

"It's totally irresponsible and is as old as L...OT -(gr8 man)-."

What interesting sentence structure you have there.

"DON'T LEGALIZE AIDS PROCUREMENT and the things that kill life."

Yes. I suggest we immediately outlaw living; it kills everyone in the end!

"Instead create LIFE by not turning Marriage into a total LIE!!!"

You realize that about half of your post is a non sequiter, don't you?


Go stick your head back in the sand.

9/13/2010 7:02:29 AM

Doctor Whom

Then we should promote lesbian marriage and outlaw marriage altogether in the District of Columbia.

9/13/2010 7:22:21 AM


Um... er ... questionable statistic + slippery slope non sequitur + change-of-subject dire prediction =|= rational argument why a monogamous same sex relationship would make things any worse than they are now. Fail.

9/13/2010 7:34:32 AM


That stat would HAVE to change unless you kept kicking gay people out and new non-infected gays kept popping up.

So, we got an idiot here citing Australian statistics like Australia is Atlantis or some shit, comparing homosexuality to murder, dissing climatologists...how does this man NOT look insane?

9/13/2010 7:36:48 AM

Not Today

Wouldn't having partners in a monogamous relationship actually decrease STDs?

9/13/2010 7:37:40 AM


9/13/2010 7:44:05 AM


Tell me again how legalizing gay marriage leads to transmission of HIV? I've got news for you - gays aren't avoiding sex because they can't marry and plenty of straight people get AIDS.

9/13/2010 8:02:09 AM


Yeah, cause straight people can't get std's, marriage never ends in divorce, etc. etc.

You really are an idiot aren't you Mark?

Also, what the FUCK does climate change have to do with gay marriage?!

9/13/2010 8:03:12 AM


...that whole page is puke-inducing. Just post the whole thing and be done with it!

9/13/2010 8:06:32 AM

What'd I Do

Lot wasn't tossing out his daughters to be raped. That's a gross oversimplification that suggests the person making it is entirely unfamiliar with the fable of Sodom and Gomorrah.

@Mark Mcfarlane - Why do you type like William Shatner speaks? It DOESN'T make me want to TAKE you any more SERIOUSLY. Besides, monogomous marriage is pretty much the opposite of promiscuity, so what's the BFD?

9/13/2010 8:18:23 AM

Thinking Allowed

Because Proposition 8 worked so well in California.

....um...wait a minute.

9/13/2010 8:26:28 AM


"Gay men account for over 80% of all new AIDS cases every year in AUSTRALIA, this stat never changes."

I don't believe your stat, and with no citation I have no reason to.

"It's never going to be curable."

Certainly not by the likes of you. Your type are the same ones claiming that man would never be able to fly and space flight was impossible. You're myopic and you give up on anything difficult.

9/13/2010 8:36:58 AM


"Crazy homophobe is out! Peace!"

Ah, I'd kill to hear that on Phineas & Ferb.

9/13/2010 8:40:21 AM

Men account for over 80% of all new Prostate Cancer cases every year everywhere. Outlaw being male!

Outlaw being female, too, for they obviously spread Uterine Cancer.

9/13/2010 9:12:00 AM

Mister Spak

We should also outlaw needle exchange, condoms and islam in order to eliminate AIDS.

9/13/2010 9:14:43 AM


A few things to say.

#1: Go fuck yourself with a white hot piece of steel.

#2: Your statistics are pulled out of your ass.

#3: If you wish for your views to be taken seriously, quit randomly capitalizing, and actually learn to spell correctly.

#4: Actually, they are well on the way to finding a cure for it. As it stands, HIV can be cured if found early enough. Some medicines are actually being developed that have shown promise in treating AIDS to the point of a cure.

(I honestly don't have the link for where I got this, but they are testing some new medicine as well as a new way of administering it. The medicine, when combined with the technique has been found to be quite effective in treating the virus. Currently, the medicine I am talking about renders it to a relatively harmless version of itself, but it is still there, so when it does make it to market, then safe sex should still be practiced.)

9/13/2010 9:19:39 AM


Citations. You need them.

And I'm looking at your Facebook posts on this group. My gaydar is tingling. A lot. You're a closet case, bud.

9/13/2010 9:19:41 AM


I wonder: for 25 years now the sanctimonious gay-bashers have been shrieking that AIDS is God's punishment for immorality, right?

So when we do develop an effective vaccine, they'll immediately acknowledge that human scientists are smarter and more powerful than God, won't they?

9/13/2010 9:23:54 AM


Wikipedia quotes several sources as stating that between 2001 and 2005, 82% of new HIV infections in Australia were from gay sex, so McFarlane is correct that far. However, only 64% of new AIDS cases were among gay men. That means that gays are, as a group, a bit more aware of the danger and seek prophylactic treatment if they fear that they've been exposed. So McFarlane heard a soundbite and mis-interpreted it to support his views on marriage.

He does not seem to realize that gay marriage (or an equivalent civil partnership - which I thought the Aussies already had) is not going to have any significant effect on HIV transmission. If anything, it might encourage monogamous behavior, which would help stop the epidemic.

So yeah, Mcfarlane is making no sense at all.

9/13/2010 9:26:48 AM


Non-sequitur: If gays are allowed to marry, they might stay even more faithful and may have even fewer sex-partners.
Gays don't magically disappear if they aren't allowed to marry, ya know.
Oh, and I'll need a citation for that "statistic".

AIDS is manageable, nowadays. People live for years and years, as long as they take the medicine.

Peace out? After all that hatred? Nice one, Bubba!

9/13/2010 9:32:46 AM

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