Quote# 76077
A scientist in 1899 claimed the diameter is only 32 miles, some of his points made are very interesting.
''The sun is always somewhere between the tropics of Cancer and Capricorn, a distance admitted to be less than 3,000 miles; how then can the sun if it be so many thousand miles in diameter, squeece itself into a space of about 3,000 miles only...can a camel ride on a mouse, or a whale rush down the throat of a herring?
What is the diameter of the sun?
32 miles. If the navigator neglects to apply the sun's semi-diameter to his observation at sea, he is 16 nautical miles (nearly) in calculating the position his ship is in. A minute of arc on the sextant represents a nautical mile, and if the semi-diameter be 16 miles, the diameter is of course 32 miles. And as measured by the sextant, the sun's diameter is 32 minutes of arc, that is 32 nautical miles in diameter. If ever dispoof is attempted, it will be a literary curiosity, well worth framing.''
[later in the same thread]
I asked how you know the distance to the sun. You are claiming it's not an estimate but that you know the precise figure. So have you traveled to the sun and back? My point was to clarify the distinction between fact and estimates (guesses).
I'm open minded and read different theories. Unless you go up into space yourself there is no way of proving the exact size of the sun or location of celestial objects. It appears you base all your faith in what NASA etc tell you without ever questioning anything. I thought atheists were meant to be 'skeptics'?
Cassiterides,
Evolution Fairytale Forum 84 Comments [9/16/2010 3:56:02 AM]
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9/16/2010 4:08:30 AM
#1207935
Canadia
Prove them wrong, go sit on the sun and attempt to measure it.
9/16/2010 4:09:48 AM
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Jezeus
Really...?
You can't be that stupid.
9/16/2010 4:17:36 AM
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Patches
For people who base their entire lives around a book written by a friend of a friend of a friend of a guy who once heard about something from someone, they're sure adamant about not believing anything else until someone goes and personally confirms it.
9/16/2010 4:19:46 AM
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The Jamo
The sun is always somewhere between the tropics of Cancer and Capricorn, a distance admitted to be less than 3,000 miles; how then can the sun if it be so many thousand miles in diameter, squeece itself into a space of about 3,000 miles only...
WTF! I'm not quite sure if he failed logic, non-euclidean geometry, or both.
9/16/2010 4:32:26 AM
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Dan Onymous
"The sun is always somewhere between the tropics of Cancer and Capricorn, a distance admitted to be less than 3,000 miles; how then can the sun if it be so many thousand miles in diameter, squeece itself into a space of about 3,000 miles only.."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRygfkm_OXk&feature=fvst
Father Ted explains.
9/16/2010 4:34:47 AM
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yeah i know. so stupid of me putting my trust in these scientists and stuff. everyone knows if i ever get sick or am dieing all i need to do is pray.
9/16/2010 4:57:05 AM
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London Jew
At last, someone has been found who is dimmer than Father Dougal.
9/16/2010 4:57:15 AM
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Mister Spak
"Unless you go up into space yourself there is no way of proving the exact size of the sun or location of celestial objects."
Um, there are these guys called 'astronauts'....
9/16/2010 4:59:35 AM
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MrsYoungie
We have the chalkboard guys vs. the ignorant 19th century moron. Guess who wins.
It's called math. Try it sometime. More than just the "goesintaz".
9/16/2010 5:05:51 AM
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Doctor Whom
How far away is the sun again?
Then again, skip it. I'm starting to feel like Daria when she explains one-point perspective to Brittany.
9/16/2010 5:14:46 AM
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Lizuka
Super Mario Galaxy may be fun, but it is not an accurate representation of space.
9/16/2010 5:15:05 AM
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Orion
I know, it's not like NASA has done all this research with some of the brightest minds and the best equipment in the world that would convince us their conclusions are pretty well backed up? I mean they would totally fake all this shit just to piss you off rather than do their job of figuring this shit out properly.
9/16/2010 5:32:22 AM
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nazani14
That car behind me is so big! How can it fit in my teensy rear-view mirror?
9/16/2010 5:32:29 AM
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Rivington
Try this: draw a triangle with one of its angles 32 degrees. Now measure the side opposite the 32 degree angle. Is it 32 miles long? If so, do let me know because then I will have to revise quite a lot of what I believe.
9/16/2010 5:42:03 AM
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loki
well you could try the daria methot. Instead of a mall try a church from a distance with the text ' come pray, come pray'. How big is the church?
Forgive me for my bad english this is by mobile.
9/16/2010 5:47:59 AM
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uttaku
small, far away, small far away
9/16/2010 5:57:36 AM
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Creedence Leonore Gielgud
"A scientist in 1899 claimed"
Which scientist? And why focus on such recent work anyway?
"I asked how you know the distance to the sun."
Lets just go with magic. A more complicated answer would only confuse, and upset you.
9/16/2010 6:00:42 AM
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D Laurier
Huh?
9/16/2010 6:13:03 AM
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nutbunny
Things seem to get smaller the further away they are. The Sun is very far away.
9/16/2010 6:27:25 AM
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Arctic Knight
"semi-diameter"? Wow, you really show your lack of knowledge of mathematical/scientific understand when you don't even know what the word "radius".
9/16/2010 6:32:07 AM
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Doubting Thomas
''The sun is always somewhere between the tropics of Cancer and Capricorn, a distance admitted to be less than 3,000 miles; how then can the sun if it be so many thousand miles in diameter, squeece itself into a space of about 3,000 miles only
OK, you've convinced me. The sun rests right on the surface of the earth. And the moon is smaller than my thumb, since when I hold my thumb up it blocks it out.
What's scary is that this is the type of person who wants creationism taught in schools.
9/16/2010 6:34:27 AM
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dionysus
All I have to say is Dunning-Kruger.
9/16/2010 6:36:27 AM
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Berny
You are basing your argument on what a so-called scientist claimed in 1899? Not that I am surprised, mind you, fuckwits like you make arguments based on Bronze Age creation mythology, so this is no different.
We know the distance to the sun because it has been measured exactly in multiple ways, not just by NASA. If you are seriously suggesting the earth is at the centre of the universe, you need to get your head examined.
9/16/2010 6:59:25 AM
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Mrs. Antichrist
Someone failed trig in high school.
9/16/2010 7:04:28 AM
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