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My question is this [...] where did gravity come from? Explain that! I pray for this man's soul, that he would come to know the only Living, True God. The God that has the power not only to take his breath away, but to judge him fairly and righteously to hell if he does not repent. The same God who has the power to heal his paralyzed body. Hawking's science cannot do that.

princesstiki, RR 108 Comments [9/23/2010 10:08:33 AM]
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James 5:13-15
Is any among your afflicted? Let him pray. Is any merry? Let him sing psalms. Is any sick among you? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the lard: and the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the lard shall raise him up....."

Get to it prinesstiki. Get the elders praying for Hawking. Have the lard heal him, raise him up, etc. Now THAT would be a witness. But alas....seems that your wholley babble sounds better in church than it actually works in the real world. Hawking's science cant heal him but it sure enough has achieved far better results in every field than your gawd has.

9/24/2010 12:25:22 AM


Actually we may be able to. Stem Cell Research indicates that it is possible. We just don't know how yet.

Remember you said the same thing about Leprosy and Syphilis.

9/24/2010 1:54:25 AM

The Jamo

OK, one more time for those who were not paying attention.

GRAVITY is a function of MASS
MASS is a function of SPACE

Apart from several intricacies within those two functions we do not really know all that much about it or why it happens. It just does. To plug the hole with a non-answer like 'god' is just retarded.

9/24/2010 2:44:13 AM

Tolpuddle Martyr

A homeschooled man once told me it came from an apple tree.

9/24/2010 4:47:41 AM


Fucking magnets, how do they work?

Magic everywhere in this bitch.

9/24/2010 5:25:41 AM

Doctor Whom

The entire thread was crafted from a single block of industrial-grade fail.

9/24/2010 6:18:08 AM


This quote has been abridged inappropriately.
Her question is in response to Hawking's comment which she quotes "because there is a law of gravity, the universe can and will create itself out of nothing."
Thus it's a fair question.
I'd 'meh' it except her Fundie stupidity shines in the assertion God has the power to heal Hawking. This doesn't give her any second thoughts at all?

9/24/2010 6:19:23 AM


Who cares whether some god or another or maybe a whole bunch of them created gravity? That was 14 1/2 billion years ago. When are fundies going to stop using the "where did the universe come from" argument? Even if it were valid, it doesn't prove the current existence of anything like the RR crowd views as the Christian God.

9/24/2010 7:08:10 AM

Think or GTFO

"The same God who has the power to heal his paralyzed body."

But chooses not to.

9/24/2010 7:11:52 AM

Well, if God has such a power, why not finishing him on the spot as you seem to wish so much?. Maybe he's more intelligent than you, after all.

9/24/2010 9:51:55 AM


@ John_In_OZ

Nah. Can't give you that. It's an attribute. It doesn't come from anywhere, it goes with the territory (matter). Physical laws aren't like legal laws, where someone has to think them up and people have to be told to follow them.

9/24/2010 2:03:24 PM


This is coming from the girl that couldn't realize there was more than one prince of Persia. :)

She *is* pretty stupid, though. lol.

9/24/2010 2:10:12 PM


*Double Post, sorry*

9/24/2010 2:29:55 PM


Buhhh.... science doesn't work that way.

9/24/2010 3:02:35 PM


@ John_In_OZ

I actually submitted the whole post, but whoever passes it had it excised.

9/24/2010 3:52:31 PM


My question is this [...] where did gravity come from? Explain that!

Physics and cosmologist really isn't my strong suit (way to much math, my Achilles heel) but if I remember my physics class, gravity is a fundamental interaction. Why it is, we don't know but to use the God of the Gaps argument is foolish. If we did that to biology, we'd never crack the human genome and we'd never come up with medicines.

I pray for this man's soul, that he would come to know the only Living, True God.True God. The God that has the power not only to take his breath away, but to judge him fairly and righteously to hell if he does not repent.

Then why hasn't God struck him dead yet? Or better yet, since your God knows everything that will happen, even in the future, why not strike him dead in the past?

The same God who has the power to heal his paralyzed body.

By your logic, it's God that gave him Lou Gehrig's disease to begin with.

Hawking's science cannot do that.

Your right to a degree, cosmology rarely impacts medicine. However, the science of medicine has.

9/24/2010 4:38:10 PM

Mrs. Antichrist

Science allows him to be mobile, communicate with others and have a fulfilling life. It's also what has kept him alive for all these years. Without it, he would have died several decades ago.

Gravity is a property of space. It didn't come from anywhere.

9/24/2010 6:12:41 PM


Give us time. Just because we can't manage a brain transplant yet doesn't mean we never will.

9/24/2010 7:11:40 PM

Mycoid Mike

Gravity comes from eating shrimp, of course. But since you Xians are not supposed to eat shellfish, yet you do, gravity is caused by sin. Therefore you will only achieve God's love by floating off into the vacuum of space.
[/fundie-style reasoning]

9/24/2010 7:52:55 PM


i agree. things were a lot better when 10 year olds died from a rupture appendix and the average life span was 45 years. those extra pesky 30 years modern medical science has forced upon our existence only take away from the time we can spend asking Jesus "all the questions you've ever wanted to know the answers to," which is a fucking mind boggling point of interest in Heaven that i've heard dozens of people refer to.

wouldn't the fact that you're conscious after your dead already clear up most of the unanswerable questions you had on earth?

they also said Hawking is going to be sorry when he'll be stuck in hell without the ability to "fly around the universe and explore space" (something i've also literally read). the very same space filled with billions of planets that they know have no life on them because god only put life on Earth. the very same space that we've discovered isn't above Earth, but outside of earth. thats not to be confused with the location of heaven, which everyone knows is just "up", and probably only over the country that likes Jesus the most.

9/24/2010 10:37:05 PM


@ Tiberius
I'm glad you've had the opportunity to set the record straight.

@ breakerslion
That's an interesting take on the laws of physics. I'm not sure I'm persuaded as many physical phenomena are contingent, for example symmetry breaking at certain temperatures of the universe. I could be wrong.
However, granting your point for the sake of discussion, I still can't see that part of her quote as a 'darndest thing' in the context of the particular quote she is replying to.

Hey- I know this is a humour site. I think the reason I get so pedantic on it is because I am intimidated by Old Vikig's wit, and don't dare compete. Is there anybody at all who gets more pedantic on this site than me?

9/25/2010 3:27:02 AM

Brendan Rizzo

@ WWWWolf

For a moment there, I thought you meant post-human. It would still make sense in the context of your comment.

@ John_in_Oz

And I'm intimidated by Anon-e-moose's wit and genius. I think we both take these things more seriously than most people.

9/25/2010 6:28:15 AM


Gravity is an inherent property of mass. You lose.

9/25/2010 8:14:15 AM


Oh man.This poor guy is toast! Just imagine being paralyze AND being thrown into the lake of fire. You can't even tread "water" to heep your head above the surface. you jsut sink right down to the bottom and can't come back up. that's gonna suck.

9/25/2010 9:02:19 AM


I wonder if God's gonna let him keep his electronic voice box so that we can hear him scream, or if he'll just silently bob around in the lake of fire for eternity.

9/25/2010 9:03:36 AM

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