Quote# 76322

Today at work a co-worker and I were on our breaks at the same time. We had to eat out in the lobby (I work at a McDonald's) because the store manager was talking to another employee about something. He was making small talk and then out of nowhere asked me what I thought about the mosque in New York. I said that it shouldn't be built because of what Muslims did on 9/11. He said something about not all Muslims being that way. I said that Islam is a religion that tells its adherents to kill those who won't submit. He said (I'm paraphrasing but it was pretty close to this), "Well, I won't kill you if you don't submit." I kind of suspected that he was a Muslim but now I finally knew. And I have to admit, that last thing he said chilled me to the bone.

Anyway, I had a great opportunity to witness and I failed. I just froze up; I wasn't really sure what to say. I've never actually spoken to a person who's holy book tells him to kill me and everyone else that worships the true Living God. I don't know if I'm asking for advice or just sharing a story.

ThePenguin, RR 104 Comments [9/25/2010 5:00:39 PM]
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Jamaican Castle


I assumed he just doesn't understand double negatives (or maybe typed it up wrong, but where's the fun in that?).

9/25/2010 8:44:15 PM

Mrs. Antichrist

His saying that he wouldn't harm you chilled you to the bone? What, can't handle having you delusions about Muslims being violent murderers shattered? Or, more likely, you probably applied a sinister meaning to what he said and then paraphrased it to sound suggestive because you're a prejudiced twat.

And FYI the Qur'an states that Muslims are supposed to show respect to Christians and Jews as fellow "people of the book". Regardless of whether or not you think they're serving him, they do believe in the same god as you do.

9/25/2010 8:44:21 PM

Professor M

@ Dexter --

Nah, the home-schooled fundies would rather work at Chick-fil-a -- McDonald's is one of those damn secular places that stays open on Sundays and doesn't support the slaughter of non-Christians.

9/25/2010 8:46:55 PM


ThePenguin would make real penguins sad if they were likely to ever be aware of this. Lucky penguins and their non-website-reading selves.

9/25/2010 8:48:53 PM

Kevin Klawitter

Dammit, Percy Q. Shunn! In that picture, Ronald McDonald is making a hand gesture that is sign language for "The Game"!

I just lost the game!

9/25/2010 8:54:35 PM


Since I'm a bisexual male, your book commands that I be put to death as well.

So fuck you.

9/25/2010 9:01:39 PM


You conviniently forget about the OT passage which requires you to kill anyone who attempts to convert you to another religion yet you want to evangelize to your co-worker. Nice.

9/25/2010 9:03:28 PM


I'm guessing you have never read the Bible.

9/25/2010 9:05:06 PM


Dear Penguin,
You always were an idiot.
The Batman

9/25/2010 9:13:10 PM

Philbert McAdamia

I won't kill you if you don't submit. ---
--- chilled me to the bone.

Not touching you...
Noooottt toooouuchinnnngg youu-uuuu.
Not killlllllinng youuuuu...
Are ya scared yet?

@ Professor M
McDonald's is one of those damn secular places that stays open on Sundays and doesn't support the slaughter of non-Christians.

I thought fundies were supposed to boycott Mickey D's since they said they'd serve gay people.
Reminds me of a vegetarian in my sign graphics class who swore he'd never paint a sign advertising any animal products. He wound up with a job painting paper signs for a meat market.

9/25/2010 9:16:33 PM


"I was chilled to the bone by how he said the complete opposite of what I thought he would say and then I acted like he'd said it anyway."

I'd hang out with your muslim co-worker. He sounds nice.

9/25/2010 9:18:06 PM

Creedence Leonore Gielgud

"I failed."

I agree. As I read this inane, rambling bullshit, I swear I heard it being spoken by a Valley Girl in my mind.

I did read the "We had to eat out in the lobby" part incorrectly, at first though. You should of went with a x-rated story about eating a co-worker out in a McDonalds seating area, during the Sunday after-church rush though. It would have been more interesting than a bunch of cliche shit about Muslims all being terrorists.

TL/DR: Quit being a dumb fuck, and get some original material.

9/25/2010 9:19:00 PM


"And they entered into a covenant to seek the LORD God of their fathers with all their heart and with all their soul; That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman." -- 2 Chronicles 15:12-13

"If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die;" -- Deuteronomy 13:6-10

9/25/2010 10:24:38 PM

Thinking Allowed

Anyway, I had a great opportunity to witness and I failed.

God is disappointed, so that means no heaven for you.

9/25/2010 10:31:29 PM

Boy Wonder

Wait, this guy presented himself as LIVING PROOF of a Muslim not being the blood-thirsty fanatic you think all Muslims to be and it chilled you to the bone? And you thought only of converting him? It didn't make you re-think things? Reconsider your world-view? No?

9/25/2010 11:50:47 PM


It chilled you to the bone that he said he WOULDN'T kill you?

Oh, wait, you just can't handle the fact that you were wrong and he knew it.

9/25/2010 11:53:04 PM


I call bullshit! If he was a Muslim, he'd probably know that it's a community center (a Muslim YMCA, sort of, guess it's a YMMA, then), not a mosque.

How can you in one sentence say "they kill those who won't submit", and then you want to "witness" to him and make him submit? Why not live and let live? He's happy in his religion, you're happy in yours. You basically believe in the same god anyway.

9/26/2010 12:07:35 AM

"I've never actually spoken to a person who's holy book tells him to kill me and everyone else that worships the true Living God. I don't know if I'm asking for advice or just sharing a story. "

Just take a look in the mirror. After that, open up the Wholy Babble and to your surprise: you'll find it telling you very similarly to kill people who wont "submit" to some mentioned criterias.

9/26/2010 12:38:05 AM


>< Philbert, what you said WAS scary. You sounded like the Joker or something. Maybe the ghost of the Joker. Egad.

This, however, is merely Cobblepot's American impersonator being an ass. How is he going to deal with Gotham when promises not to kill him at McDonald's are terrifying? I kind of have to suspect that Mr. Co-worker went home and told family members about the successful application of witty dialogue with appropriate timing, causing bigot to freeze up and become without words in the middle of Big Mac and fries.

9/26/2010 12:41:58 AM


Newsflash: Your holy book also tells you to kill nonbelievers, but you don't know it because you people never actually read the fucking thing. If you did, you'd realize just what a horrific religion Christianity really is.

9/26/2010 12:44:15 AM

pretty puppy

I realllllllly want to know why he suspected his co-worker of being Muslim. Did the co-worker request Friday afternoons off and never Sunday mornings? Did the co-worker disappear a couple of times a shift and come back looking rested, peaceful, and in thought? Did the co-worker not take any meal breaks during the day during much of August?

Was the co-worker a person of color?

9/26/2010 12:46:52 AM

pretty puppy


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Penguin, don't underestimate the impact of what you did say. Your coworker now has to deal with a discrepancy between what his Koran says and what he thinks. Wheels are turning. Job well done!!!

9/26/2010 12:49:22 AM

London Jew

So, it's true: homeskooled fundies do end up as burger flippers.

Let's take hope from this, though: in his first job, the fundie has been for possibly the first time exposed to the real world outside his fundie bubble, and it scares the shit out of him. A few more years, and maybe it isn't so scary and maybe he begins to wonder why he was in the bubble so long.

9/26/2010 1:16:06 AM


Liar liar pants on fire!

9/26/2010 1:35:18 AM


I think what The Penguin finds scary is that his co-worker doesn't seem to want to persecute him and as we all know, fundies love (no, need) to claim they're being persecuted.

9/26/2010 1:42:42 AM

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