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Why NASA and its scientists insist that the universe is not like what the Qura'n says? The HADITH said that the distance betwenn the Earth and the first heaven is 500 years.. not light years but in that age's way of measuring .. walking and riding camels. Now it is said that billions and billions of miles distance us from stars.. then it is said that there is no end to the universe, although it is known in islam that there is heavens and the chair of god and the ultimate ceiling of the worlds: sedrat al-muntaha. those new beliefs made man unaware of his importance. they told us we are just specks of dust.. nothing. That leads to man behaving as if there is no meaning in life.. as if he is nothing that maters. Atheists love this line of thinking.. we shouldn't.

Mando Salama, Geocentric Islam 40 Comments [9/26/2010 1:00:49 PM]
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Mister Spak

"Why NASA and its scientists insist that the universe is not like what the Qura'n says?"

Because the koran is full of shit. The bible says so.

"distance betwenn the Earth and the first heaven is 500 years.. not light years but in that age's way of measuring .. walking and riding camels."

So all we have to do is equip the Enterprize with faster than camel warp drive and boldly go where no muslim has gone before.

9/27/2010 5:27:13 AM

Brendan Rizzo

No, it doesn't.

Believing in a book written by a desert nomad suffering from hallucinations is not a good idea. (I am so dead now.)

Wait a minute, this is a geocentrist site? If there are any Muslims among the commenters here, please tell me so that we have evidence that most Muslims aren't this stupid. (And I don't mean to offend anyone, btw.)

9/27/2010 6:02:18 AM

Anon-e-moose

"Now it is said that billions and billions of miles distance us from stars.. then it is said that there is no end to the universe, although it is known in islam that there is heavens and the chair of god and the ultimate ceiling of the worlds: sedrat al-muntaha. those new beliefs made man unaware of his importance. they told us we are just specks of dust.. nothing. That leads to man behaving as if there is no meaning in life.. as if he is nothing that maters. Atheists love this line of thinking.. we shouldn't."

Not according to early Islamic mathematicians and astronomers. Science was one of your religion's brightest beacons in the Middle Ages, until Islam was perverted by the likes of you today, Mando. Ever wonder why this joke exists?:

Q: Why are there no Muslims in "Star Trek"?

A: Because "Star Trek" is set in the future.

Even Jewish characters have appeared in "Babylon 5".

@Mister Spak

"So all we have to do is equip the Enterprize with faster than camel warp drive and boldly go where no muslim has gone before."

After said camels have been liquidised, put in syringes and injected through the eye of a needle (thus we Atheists - and the likes of Bill Gates, Warren Buffet et al - can go to heaven; didn't think of that did you eh, goat-sodomising authors of the Bible, eh? EH?! [/smartarse]), the remains can be turned into hydrogen slush for use in the USS Enterprise's warp core, in which the Dilithium Crystal intermixes said matter with antimatter, to power the warp engines.

[/smartarse II]

9/27/2010 8:04:40 AM

Doctor Fishcake

Atheists love...thinking.. we shouldn't.

There I fixed it.

9/27/2010 8:11:47 AM

Doubting Thomas

The HADITH said that the distance betwenn the Earth and the first heaven is 500 years

Yeah but it will take you 30 cubic yards to get there.

Seriously, if you're saying I have to walk or ride a camel for 500 years after I die to get to heaven, then I'll opt for the Christian rapture where all I have to do is fly.

9/27/2010 9:08:56 AM

John_in_Oz

Give your Camel travel an implausible 100,000 miles per year, and in 500 years it travels 50 million miles.
Our space-craft to Mars have travelled 3 times as far and not hit the first heaven.
So the reason NASA's scientists say the universe is not like what the Qura'n says is because the universe is not like what the Qura'n says.

9/27/2010 9:12:05 AM

SeekerLancer

Well if heaven were that close not only NASA but any amateur with a telescope should have found it by now.

9/27/2010 10:30:01 AM

Arts_Myth

Why Mando insist that he is not like what I say? I say that Mando is an ignorant ass who may well have had illicit relations with a camel, or might well be the result of same. Now Mando insists he has never sexually molested, nor been sexually molested by, a camel, and that he has a real mommy and daddy, but that just leads to him behaving as if he actually has anything useful to say. Mando loves this line of thinking.. we don't.

(Writing it with that mangled grammar, using Mando's name, makes me imagine it being said by Mongo from Blazing Saddles.)

("Candygram for Mando!")

9/27/2010 11:30:54 AM

Prof. Bill Hill

Why does Mando strive so hard to make Allah and the Qura'n seem silly? Isn't he afraid of the loonies who are in charge of Islam? Surely a terrible revenge is going to be enacted on his mindless body. Trying to make the Qura'n to be as authoritative as that doyen of science texts, the Holy Bible, is a futile exercise.

9/27/2010 1:01:34 PM

WMDKitty

Fffffuuuu-

9/27/2010 11:07:21 PM

dionysus

they told us we are just specks of dust.. nothing. That leads to man behaving as if there is no meaning in life.. as if he is nothing that maters. Atheists love this line of thinking.. we shouldn't.

And here we have the reason why people cling to fundamentalist belief systems: because the world is way too scary for them and they need an easy method of reassurance, reality be damned. The fact that fundies use this argument so much despite it having jack shit to do with establishing the facts makes it glaringly obvious that they care more about patching up their insecurities than figuring out what's actually true.

9/28/2010 11:45:38 AM

Amadaun

@Brendan: He's not evoking the Quran here; it's a Hadith, a traditional saying of one of the founders of Islam (group varies by sect) preserved orally for some time and carefully collected, compared, and ranked according to how true they seem to be and what their lineage of transmission is. I have no idea what hadith he's referring to or what its pedigree is, but there you are. The Hadith aren't directly attributed to God, just to Mohammed and his early followers/successors.

I want to ride a camel to Venus.

9/28/2010 7:59:59 PM

Reverend Jeremiah

and if it said 2 years you would have said "at the speed of allah"

9/29/2010 3:24:25 AM



And they keep tellin' me that that I shouldn't make fun out of these retards.

10/4/2010 3:26:11 AM

Anacin_Disciple

no offense, but xtian fundy nut jobs are so much more interesting.

11/20/2010 2:37:26 AM
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