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Ernst Roehn, by the way, was actively gay. In fact you couldn’t be promoted within the SA unless you were.

J Wilkinson is right. Atheists and secular humanists, in common with Nazis, are into euthanasia. Catholics aren’t.

Imagine this future dystopia in which Richard Dawkins has become Prime Minister.

Dear Mr and Mrs Shameless

Your claim for Income Based Jobseeker’s Allowance, Housing Benefit, Child Benefit and Council Tax Benefit is time-limited by law and will soon expire. This means you will not get any benefits after [DATE].

An appointment has been made for you and your family to attend the Harold Shipman Exit Clinic at

[ADDRESS]

on the above date. You do not need to bring any sleepwear or personal belongings with you.

It is important that you keep this appointment, as another is unlikely to be available for several months.

You must also notify us at once if any member of your family is pregnant and due to give birth before your clinic appointment date, as an abortion will have to be arranged as soon as possible.

Yours faithfully

Manager
Job Centre Plus
On behalf of the Secretary of State for Work and Social Hygiene

Michael Petek, Protest the Pope 53 Comments [9/27/2010 3:48:12 AM]
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SeekerLancer

Yes, make everything you disagree with into something as scary as you can.

9/27/2010 10:23:21 AM



And this is why the Pope's comments equating "aggressive secularism" with the Nazis angered so many. Because it was clear that the good old non-thinking fucktards who hang on the Pontiff's every last word would believe it, and spout this kind of crap. This is why the words of that doddering old cumbucket are so dangerous. Because his followers are brainless flecks of badger toss who love any excuse to hate everyone else.

9/27/2010 10:49:59 AM

Felis >:3

I think one of the main problems with the author's post, before anything else, is that it implies that the British Government will ever be that competent.

9/27/2010 10:56:42 AM

birdboy2000

Rohm was gay. He was purged, along with the SA, on charges of homosexuality before the Nazis came to power. He was a nasty bigot who bears some of the blame for the Nazi's rise, but it is unfair to tar him with the brush of most of nazism's atrocities, which happened after his death.

Adolf Hitler was straight. *He* ordered the holocaust and started World War II.

9/27/2010 11:01:39 AM

freako104

Euthanasia is merciful. The person who has it done wants it done you fucking moron. I imagine it. While I hope I am still allowed to hold my beliefs as true and pray to the gods as I wish to, I prefer it to one in a theocratic government. Hell I imagine what it would be like if Catholcism were in power. I'd be killed or tortured, atheists would be burned at the stake, Christians of different sects are hung or tortured. Oh and your church helped the Nazis.

9/27/2010 11:10:26 AM

Mrs. Antichrist

Euthanasia and eugenics aren't the same thing, you twat.

9/27/2010 11:17:36 AM

Old Viking

A total drooler.

9/27/2010 12:00:40 PM

loki

aah the old, you are this, so were the nazis so, you are a nazi. Yeah right. All nazis were human so we are all nazis according to your peabrain logic. And everyone can kick your fundy christian ass when it comes to abortion. Most abortions occur within fundy christian communities because of your complete absence off any sexual knowledge

9/27/2010 2:34:26 PM

Shanya Almafeta

A time limit? That guy's all up in arms about possibly getting a time limit? We subsidize a for-profit private industry to the tune he pays for all his benefits! Jerk doesn't know how lucky he has it.

Let me know if Richard Dawkins ever does lead a political party. I'd become a UK citizen and vote for him just to watch Perek's head explode in paranoia.

9/27/2010 7:39:58 PM

Reckoner

WTF is wrong with these people???

9/27/2010 9:37:15 PM

WMDKitty

"Gott Mit Uns"

That is all.

9/27/2010 11:00:39 PM

Pule Thamex

Anon-e-moose, I don't take sides. Protestants and Roman Catholics have both proven how easily they revert to superstitious barbarism in their quest for riches and power. Both have shown how callously they treat their fellow humans and both display their propensity for bigotry and for stirring-up hatreds among their followers.

9/28/2010 12:43:17 AM

Sam

Really?

Gott mit uns? That's all?

Look, I'm never going to say that Hitler was an atheist. It's impossible to know what he really believed, but he certainly presented himself to the world as a Catholic, which is all that really matters.

But, please, invoking Gott mit uns is beyond stupid. It was a Prussian phrase that goes back centuries before Nazi Germany, and furthermore, the SS, which would be the most "Nazi" branch of the armed forces during Nazi Germany, did away with Gott mit uns, replacing it with "Meine Ehre heisst Treue", "My honor is loyalty"

So...

Gott mit uns was a phrase added to the Prussian(Brandenberger, whatever) coat of arms around 1700, which was used as a motto by the Prussian/German military, and was only partially eliminated by the Nazis.

That's not a very good counter-argument to Nazi Germany being an atheist country. Maybe you think it's not an argument that deserves serious scrutiny(I think it's a pretty stupid one myself), but that's not a very good reason to be lazy with the facts.


9/28/2010 5:21:50 AM

FMG

If it were the catholics your children would be molested first...

Two can make up distasteful stories about the other.

9/28/2010 7:10:13 AM

Orion

"Ernst Roehn, by the way, was actively gay. In fact you couldn’t be promoted within the SA unless you were."

Until he was murdered by the Nazi's in the night of the long knives for his advocation of pursuing the "socialist" side of the National Socialist agenda (which was always bullshit). After his death the SA fell into lockstep with the rest of the Nazis in being fervently Christian (inc Catholic), anti-abortion, anti-semitic, anti-atheist, anti-gay and anti-communist/socialist.

9/28/2010 8:56:07 AM

Anon-e-moose

@Pule Thamex

Fair enough. Just giving thanks to the CofE, and how it's shaped religious belief in the UK. Certainly not fundie (despite a few within it's ranks stubbornly being anti-women vicars and their homophobic attitude, re. gay clergy).

9/28/2010 9:16:35 AM

Giveitaday

Ernst Roehn, by the way, was actively gay. In fact you couldn’t be promoted within the SA unless you were.

And that fact has absolutely fuck-all to do with anything else.

Atheists and secular humanists, in common with Nazis, are into euthanasia

Where do you get this stupid ass idea that atheists, secular humanists, or anyone the fuck else has some kind of obsession with euthanasia? You want to prove this idea then name the atheist or secular humanist advocating mandatory mass euthanasia and then show some tagible proof that the majority of other atheists or secular humanists support that persons views. Of course you can't prove than, so you'll just continue to lie for jesus as usual.

I'm sorry to have to break this to you, but you don't get to decide the intrests of anyone, atheist or otherwise, by decree. Furthermore, you cannot equate two groups because of a shared intrest, especially when, as in this case, that shared intrest is either a figment of your imaginaton, or simply an outright lie. Should people equate christianity with nazi's because both groups believed in the same god?


Catholics aren’t.

Because catholisism doesn't have a long, long history of the persecution and murder of countless Jews... Oh, wait... It does.

9/28/2010 12:23:42 PM

Albionic

@ Brendan Rizo

I don't know about we Brits having had an atheist prime minister, but we have had some dreadful ones calling themselves Christians. I think you have had this problem on your side of the pond too.

9/28/2010 12:32:40 PM

Amadaun

...if your government offices dedicated to thinning the population are already so overtasked you have trouble fitting everyone in, why the hell would you mandate abortion of any potential babies? It's a comparatively difficult and expensive operation, requiring trained labour. The baby can be gassed just as easily as everyone else.

Admit it. You just wanted to get abortion in there. This further exposes your fear-mongering as nothing to do with coherent reality, and everything to do with your mind.

Oh, and fuck you for insulting all the gays killed in the Holocaust by implying that the Nazis endorsed homosexual behavior and expected their soldiers to sleep their way up the ranks. Many all-male organizations (including the Church) have histories of this method of career advancement being utilized from time to time, but the Nazis are approximately the least safe place in history to try it.

Who is Harold Shipman? Sounds pretty British; makes me think of Harold Saxon.

9/28/2010 7:27:10 PM



Harold Shipman was a British doctor and serial killer. He murdered many of his elderly patients. Some people speculate he could have killed in excess of 200 people, but I think he was convicted of killing about 5.

I suppose this low-wit, dimbulb Michael Petek also doesn't understand the difference between murder and euthanasia.

9/29/2010 3:13:45 AM

G. Fieendish

I take it that in this Bizarro universe,(Earth-X?) that Fundies believe that us in the U.K live in, the panel mentioned above, is merely following in the footsteps of the "Eugenics/Social Engineering" Policies of several U.S states in the early to mid 20th Century, as well as the T4 Aktion, of Nazi Germany...
Needless to say, I suspect that if said policies did ever happen, they would be enacted by a Upper Class Right-wing Government...
" The Lower Classes should be discouraged from Breeding..." - Sir Keith Joseph 1975
(Note: the reporting of the above gaffe, by the BBC, cost Mr Joseph any chance of becoming the leader of the Tory Party, in 1975, when the former leader, Edward Heath was ousted in a internal coup, after losing the 1974 General Election...).

9/29/2010 8:39:10 AM

Thoth

If they're going to kill them anyway, why do they need a separate abortion? besides the need to use the word of course

9/30/2010 5:49:52 AM

Yama the Space Fish

I don't think Hitler was catholic. His puppets, Tiso and Pavelic, were.

9/30/2010 2:50:22 PM



However, there were homosexuals in concentration camps. What criteria did they have to choose one for the highest and one for the lowest.

10/1/2010 10:36:21 AM



Ernst Rohm(at least, spell it right)was gay.........and executed for that reason. Next stupid thing?

10/2/2010 10:38:47 AM
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