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Philosophy class is a scam, they teach only left wing socialist whack job theories of ethics and morals, and discussing nothing of Rand. I hated philo

one love, Christian Forums 22 Comments [8/30/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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#1071

Crosis

No way. This can't be. Not a hyper-Christian Randroid. That's just too insane for words.

(BTW, my philosophy class *did* cover Rand, at least briefly. One of the other posters says it's a good thing they don't present Rand, as they'd butcher it. I'd say Rand does a pretty good job of butchering it herself.)

8/30/2005 8:59:46 PM

#1078

Francois Tremblay

Um... does he know that Rand was not only an atheist, but thought that the truth of atheism was a fundamental, metaphysical issue ? There is no possible way to reconcile Christianity with Rand.

8/31/2005 1:06:53 AM

#1094

xMinionX

Some people just can't check their partisan bullshit at the door, even if it's the classroom door.

8/31/2005 8:00:36 PM

#229154

wintermute

Left-wing socialist whack-jobs like... Jesus?

5/15/2007 5:35:35 PM

#229181

Julian

Wow - does someone here jerk-off to Fox?

5/15/2007 5:57:06 PM

#229654

Brian X

See, the problem with Rand is that her philosophies were inherently fundamentalist in their own right -- Randian Objectivism, essentially, is radical libertarianism combined with a cult of personality. I think the reason it's not taken too seriously in academia is that it's really rather simplistic and snotty, as well as rigidly inflexible in its principles.

5/16/2007 5:23:40 AM

#230719

CrazyRoper

What a wonderful little paradox you are.

On another note, I would never call my self an Objectivist/Randian, but I do like some of it.

5/18/2007 12:41:16 PM

#230725

Darwin

Translation: It isn't right-wing fundie philo, so it must be left-wing commie crap.

5/18/2007 1:09:16 PM

#230810

Laurel

Part of philosophy class is learning to listen to ideas you didn't already have in your head. Part of philosphy class--by which I mean the best part--is being made uncomfortable.

5/18/2007 4:01:57 PM

#270850

Chi

Hmmm, Jesus was a liberal Jew. Funny that fundies always forget that.

7/28/2007 12:03:50 PM

#271061

Professor M

I wonder if the Randroids ever stop to notice that none of them ever have much of a grounding in philosophy. If they do, I wonder whether they just assume this is part of some giant left-wing conspiracy in philosophy departments. (Because really...philosophy is not a left-wing discipline, at least in the U.S. Hell, most of the specifically leftist philosophy-types were effectively banished to Comparative Literature departments...)

7/28/2007 3:53:15 PM

#271100

b. beau brinker

I never cared for Randroids and their screw-you-jack-I've-got-mine attitude.

There is a prof at FSU who is a rather strident Randroid; he used to spew objectivist rants in the local paper.

7/28/2007 4:39:17 PM

#357377

Danger

I myself am an Objectivist, and I am quite frankly glad that this person didn't study Rand's work. They obviously have no idea about Rand's life and ideas, and that Rand would probably not suffer a person like this.

12/10/2007 12:04:47 AM

#357380

484

NOOOOOOO, NOT ETHICS AND MORALS!!

12/10/2007 12:08:59 AM

#383300

GigaGuess

@Laurel

Being uncomfortable, IMHO, means you're seriously challenging your previously held ideas. ALWAYS a good thing. *thumbs up.*

1/17/2008 6:00:10 PM

#1059506

dr y

In the phil class I'm taking right now, we read some articles from Rand with no teacher commentary. It was the students who brought them up in class and bashed them. I fucking hated Rand, because she was a delusional, narrow-minded asshat. And no one had to tell me that.

11/18/2009 8:31:08 PM

#1476035

Quantum Mechanic

That's because Ayn Rand was a writer of fiction.

11/29/2012 10:19:32 AM

#1476039

anti-nonsense

Rand was a shitty philosopher.

11/29/2012 10:37:31 AM

#1507532

JohnConstantine

Because Rand ripped off the Nihilists.

2/19/2013 7:38:37 PM

#1507552

Felix Wilde

First, I'll cross- post these links someone shared with me in another thread, in which Christians delude themselves into believing Rand was a Christian fundie too. They manage to do a lot of green ideas sleep furiously in the process, something Rand herself also excelled at.

To address the OP: That's because real philosophy makes Randian Objectivism look like the ramblings of a semi-literate juvenile reactionary. Her "philosophy" is simple- minded, demonstrably untrue in parts and challenges the bible in its failure to attain internal consistency.

Ironically enough, this "Christian" probably rejected Kant, Descartes and Pascal out of hand, but bemoans the lack of time devoted to an ardent atheist. Plus, Rand stole more than a couple of thoughts and arguments from "left wing socialist whack jobs" like Marx and Nietzsche, but didn't suffer from their terrifying clarity of vision (I actually just wanted to quote that phrase; points to whoever gets it).

2/19/2013 11:13:11 PM

#1507676

Canadiest

Ayn Rand's overlying principle:

The rich make all the rules, everyone else are servants.

The fundie churchs agree with that so they've embrassed it, filtered out the Atheist leanings as they filter out most the Bible. Make no mistake, Fundamentalist leaders want total control of the wealth, lands and people. They have no use for a democrated, free people America, they are right-wing overlords in their own minds.

2/20/2013 8:31:42 AM

#1507681

Filin De Blanc

Ayn Rand based the hero of one of her first novels on a guy who kidnapped 10 year-old and dismembered her. She was fucked in the head and so is anyone who listens to her.

2/20/2013 8:37:37 AM