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Q-If God created the world 6,000 years ago or so, why are stars millions of light years away?

A-Brendon, what a question! Yes, we know from the dates God gives us in the Bible that He did create the whole universe about 6,000 years ago. When we hear the term light-year, we need to realize it is not a measure of time but a measure of distance, telling us how far away something is. Distant stars and galaxies might be millions of light-years away, but that doesn’t mean that it took millions of years for the light to get here, it just means it is really far away!

Ken Ham, AIG, AIG 174 Comments [10/20/2010 10:46:20 AM]
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If what Ken Ham says is true, then we shouldn't be able to see the majority of stars in the sky.
Anyways, light-year means how far light travels in a year, so it would still take millions of years for the light of the stars to reach our eyes.

8/20/2012 12:11:00 PM

Ebon

Where to even start?

8/28/2012 10:07:49 PM



THEN WHY CAN WE SEE THEM YOU FUCKING IDIOTS?

9/5/2012 9:04:00 AM

Ebrainer1

But.... But we can SEE them! Gah! The stupid burns my eyes!

9/7/2012 8:12:02 AM



Kenny is so smart. He knows that light year is a measure of distance. Too bad he didn't no it is the distance light travels in a year. I guess he will learn that when he goes on to the fourth grade.

11/21/2012 2:45:03 AM

CatOnKeyboard321

I first learnt the definition and meaning of a light year aged 7.

This is not an exaggeration, although I accept I am something of an exception. But still... groan.

2/1/2013 6:01:59 PM

punch

Um. no. It does mean it takes millions of years to get here.

2/1/2013 7:04:53 PM



yes children , put on your Bible glasses and you can see things very far away ...

Luckily Ken can cite the Starlight synchrony convention (or something) that shows light coming toward earth is instantaneous , while light going elsewhere travels at 1/2 of light speed thus averaging out. It took a phd astrophysics guy to work that one out.

The creation museum has a dino with a saddle. The flintstones was really a documentary ! who knew !





2/1/2013 9:28:13 PM

xyz

> When we hear the term light-year, we need to realize it is not a measure of time but a measure of distance, telling us how far away something is.
Exactly. Now let us consult the dictionary to see just how long a light-year is:
"A unit of length (abbreviation ly; equal to just under 10 trillion kilometres (10[size=8]16[/size] metres)) equal to the distance light travels in one year; used to measure extremely large distances."

As you can see, that renders this statement:
> Distant stars and galaxies might be millions of light-years away, but that doesn’t mean that it took millions of years for the light to get here, it just means it is really far away!
Invalid. Millions of light-years means it takes millions of years for light to travel that distance.

Unless, of course, God was feeling deceitful and put that light there to fool scientists into thinking that the universe is 14 billion years old.

2/1/2013 10:14:14 PM



Does the Bible give any dates?

If a galaxy is millions of light-years away, that DOES mean that it took millions of years for the light to get here. That is exactly what a light-year is, stupid!

2/2/2013 10:22:54 AM

nyctornado

@Terry Stroud
"This is the kind of (dolphin chirps) we are talking about"

Gasp! Did he just say? Aye he did!

@katie5000
"You deceitful (dolphin chirps)'
@anevilmeme
"...any (dolphin chirps) dumber."

Do you kiss your mothers with that mouth?


2/2/2013 5:00:48 PM

Blarghonius

Ken, you are a retard. Every time I see something you have said, I have to remind myself that you are not a small child, but a grown man who believes in myths and does everything he can to promote the idiotic ideas ancient people had about the world. Go fuck yourself and go live in a cave, where you will find the amount of science you desire.

2/2/2013 10:51:50 PM

Justanotheratheist

Answers In Genesis, designed for those with an intellect several notches below that of a dead goldfish.

2/2/2013 11:19:20 PM

8-bit Orne

...Yeah. Yeah, it kinda DOES. That's where the name "light years" CAME FROM.

4/14/2013 6:22:00 PM

Qvantvm

Q: How would you respond if I told you that it does take millions of years for their light to get here?

4/30/2013 3:05:48 PM



Every time Ken Ham utters a thought-stopping nugget of pure mental refuse like this, a scientist gets alcoholism.

4/30/2013 7:51:09 PM



The ignorant training their children to be ignorant.

4/30/2013 9:18:51 PM

Entranced

I think my brain may have imploded from the sheer ignorance of that.

5/17/2013 4:55:32 PM



light year = the amount of distance light travels in a vacuum.

If you can see a star in the sky, the light had to travel the requisite number of light years to reach your eyes. The nearest star is 4.2 light years away while the furthest is in the order of 3 billion light years away.

Do the math. Oh wait...

9/5/2013 11:25:38 AM

Stronius

Ok, seriously, why has no one cracked down on this website and/or Assassinated Ken Ham yet? I hate violence, yet I honestly want someone to fucking. Kill. That. Asshole. It's not just ignorance, it's a willing refusal to accept evidence or use thought, along with indoctrinating kids into idocy, in the name of your fucking god.

9/15/2013 12:50:08 AM

Canadiest

"we know from the dates God gives us in the Bible"

This is a widely used assertion used by Fundie leaders and followers alike. It's bullshit as there are NO dates in the Bible. Archbishop Ussher made up this age by assigning arbitrary ages and fatherhood ages to the Bible generation list, better known to most as the Begat book.

But they seldom say "the chronology in the Bible caculated by archbishop Ussher" No, they say straight up, in true echo-chamber fashion " we know from the dates God gives us in the Bible"

Because honesty isn't in their profession.

9/15/2013 7:16:30 AM

Haylale1

In Genesis 1:2 the Hebrew word "???????" is in the 'past tense' and is demonstrative.
So the verse properly translated, word for word, Hebrew to English:

And the land she had become (demonstratively) empty (lacking substance/its salt for example) and void (lacking direction/purpose) and darkness upon the face of the [water making noise] (a consistent reference of people wondering aimless in life) and Spirit (singular) of Eloheem/Gods (plural) fluttered upon the face of the waters (referring to the above 'water making noiese' as in there were many of these).

So if one actually went through the maturity process in scripture and became 'spiritually minded' as Romans 8:1-15 describes, you would be able to see that 'The Land' is described in a past tense. So Genesis chapter one does not do anything other than describe a very large cyclical action. Who cares how old the world is? People who don't want to mature in a spiritual sense. They don't want to believe their understanding is at best enough to preserve them for just a flicker of time.

9/15/2013 2:18:49 PM

Happy Misanthrope

Lets be fair to Ken Ham, it's difficult to make these mental calculations when all you can hear is the "Kerching" of cash registers in your head.

10/21/2013 5:06:13 AM

DAR31337

A light year is the distance light travels in a year, hence light YEAR.

12/16/2013 9:21:26 AM
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