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After the courts delivered a series of body-blows to marriage over the past four decades -- with no-fault divorce, abortion, the de facto legalization of pornography, and legitimizing cohabitation -- the justices thought: Oh, what the h_ll, what harm can there possibly be in opening the honorable estate to members of the North American Man/Boy Love Association and Dykes on Bikes?
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Pardon my hate-filled rhetoric, but when exactly did homosexuals become a division of humanity instead of a sorry collection of individuals (connected only by their carnal appetites) caught up in a perverted lifestyle?

That which once was properly shunned is now celebrated as a glorious form of diversity -- promoted in the schools, subsidized by corporate America, pampered by government at the state and local levels, and pandered to by politicians -- witness the Democratic gay presidential debate last August, sponsored by the Human Rights Campaign, where Clinton and Obama preened before representatives of the community like singer Melissa Etheridge.

The slide down the slippery slope accelerates at breakneck speed. What awaits us at the bottom isn't gay marriage alone -- which is merely a way station -- but a sexual totalitarian state (replete with Diversity Gestapo) in which dissent from the gay agenda will be ruthlessly suppressed.
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Conscience and intimidation aside, gay matrimony will turn marriage into a free-form institution. If two men or two women can tie the knot in California, why not two women and two men, or a woman and her brother, or a man and a chicken, or Al Gore and the ozone layer?

Absurd, you may say. No more so than the idea of same-sex marriage 20 years ago.

By divorcing marriage from the potential for procreation (life doesn't come from the things homosexuals do in the privacy of their bedrooms, or at rest stops, or in public parks in Amsterdam), by compelling us to endorse the fiction that a couple who are sodomizing each other somehow constitutes a family, by telling a husband and wife who are struggling to raise a family that in the eyes of society they have exactly the same standing as those who a few short years ago were called degenerates, we will end up destroying an institution that predates political correctness, human rights commissions, the California Supreme Court and government itself.

Don Feder, OneNewsNow.com 66 Comments [10/22/2010 3:52:46 AM]
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Felius

Yeah, because partnership between two consenting adults is exactly the same as pedophilia and bestiality.

10/22/2010 4:14:51 AM

aaa

Same rehashed argument, number 425946028975328074.

10/22/2010 4:25:06 AM



Anti-gay marriage folks can get quite perverted in their rantings.

I'll give you a hint, DC, it's not your average gay person who's thinking about marrying his sibling, a chicken, or a layer of the atmosphere.

That all came for YOUR mind.

10/22/2010 4:29:34 AM

Brain_In_A_Jar

Pardon my hate-filled rhetoric

No. No, I don't think I will.

but when exactly did homosexuals become a division of humanity

They're human beings who can be described by a common trait, ergo they are a division of humanity. This isn't difficult. That you apparently do not like the idea of even being grouped with homosexuals under the same species has strong and unpleasant implications for your security in your sexual identity.

The rest of your post dives off the deep end into delusional fantasy without the slightest connection to reality, so you'll excuse me if I don't consider it even worth refutation.

10/22/2010 4:43:07 AM

Fedup

A sexually totalitarian state? Sounds naughty
Houston we have a problem.... a sexy problem

10/22/2010 4:46:19 AM

Mister Spak

The slide down the slippery slope accelerates at breakneck speed. What awaits us at the bottom isn't gay marriage alone -- which is merely a way station -- but the return of Voldemort.

10/22/2010 5:10:24 AM

Doctor Whom

After the courts delivered a series of body-blows to marriage over the past four decades -- with no-fault divorce, abortion, the de facto legalization of pornography, and legitimizing cohabitation --

No-fault divorce was introduced through legislation, including one act signed by Ronald Reagan.

Oh, what the h_ll, what harm can there possibly be in opening the honorable estate to members of the North American Man/Boy Love Association and Dykes on Bikes?

Which part of "consenting adults" is so difficult to grasp? And what's up with the reference to Dykes on Bikes?

subsidized by corporate America

Why do you hate capitalism so much?

witness the Democratic gay presidential debate last August, sponsored by the Human Rights Campaign, where Clinton and Obama preened before representatives of the community like singer Melissa Etheridge.

You complain that our movement is undemocratic, and you complain that politicians pander to us. Which is it?

10/22/2010 5:14:56 AM

gravematter

The slide down the slippery slope accelerates at breakneck speed. What awaits us at the bottom isn't gay marriage alone -- which is merely a way station -- but a sexual totalitarian state (replete with Diversity Gestapo) in which dissent from the gay agenda will be ruthlessly suppressed.

There's this old joke: A man tells his friend he's leaving the country. "Why?" asks his friend. "Well," he replies, "200 years ago homosexuality was punishable by death. Then the sentence got reduced to a few years in prison. Now it's legal. I'm leaving before they make it compulsory".
Fundies seem to be taking this joke as a prophecy of things to come. Even if some sort of bizarro world Hitler began exterminating all the non-homosexuals, I'm not entirely sure you could blame society for allowing everyone equal rights.

we will end up destroying an institution that predates political correctness, human rights commissions, the California Supreme Court and government itself.

Why is it that the argument for lunacies like religion, herbal medicine and astrology always involves the fact that they've been around for centuries? Slavery has occurred throughout history, and certainly also predates political correctness, human rights comissions, the California Supreme Court and government itself. If it comes to that, homosexuality predates Chrisitianity. Also what's this reference to public parks in Amsterdam? Amsterdam is a very liberal city but people don't tend to screw in public parks any more than anywhere else, and it would still be considered illegal to do so. Have you ever been outside the USA, Don? I'm guessing no.

10/22/2010 5:15:35 AM

Aspergus

"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it."

-Thomas Jefferson


10/22/2010 5:16:01 AM

Doctor Whom

(cont'd)

The slide down the slippery slope accelerates at breakneck speed.

You even name the fallacy that you're using.

If two men or two women can tie the knot in California, why not two women and two men, or a woman and her brother, or a man and a chicken, or Al Gore and the ozone layer?

Or a man and 700 wives and 300 concubines?

Absurd, you may say. No more so than the idea of same-sex marriage 20 years ago.

If we declare independence from King George III give women the vote desegregate the public schools let queers marry, all sorts of bad things will happen.

By divorcing marriage from the potential for procreation (life doesn't come from the things homosexuals do in the privacy of their bedrooms, or at rest stops, or in public parks in Amsterdam)

That reminds me. I need to renew my membership in "Stop Sterile Marriage."

by telling a husband and wife who are struggling to raise a family that in the eyes of society they have exactly the same standing as those who a few short years ago were called degenerates

Why don't they? Wouldn't that give us the "equal rights, not special rights" you people keep whining about? Also, refresh my memory as to which hippie liberal feminazi said that there is no such thing as society.

10/22/2010 5:16:03 AM

shykid

Don Feder is a closet case, story at eleven.

10/22/2010 5:56:16 AM

dionysus

the justices thought: Oh, what the h_ll, what harm can there possibly be in opening the honorable estate to members of the North American Man/Boy Love Association and Dykes on Bikes?

When the fuck did NAMBLA get a right to marry kids? Oh, right, about quarter past NEVER. Dykes on bikes; wow, don't you think you're clever. But just a bit of advice: don't quit your day job. Anyway, I saw a straight couple get married on bikes so why can't a gay couple do the same?

Pardon my hate-filled rhetoric

No. Now own up to your hateful comments, you pussy, rather than feigning apology.

but when exactly did homosexuals become a division of humanity instead of a sorry collection of individuals

When they were born *gasp* HUMAN. Like it or not we can't kick humans out of being human. We can dehumanize them like assholes do but that doesn't actually make them inhuman; in fact, the people doing the dehumanizing are closer to being inhuman.

That which once was properly shunned is now celebrated as a glorious form of diversity -- promoted in the schools, subsidized by corporate America, pampered by government at the state and local levels, and pandered to by politicians

I know. I too think that fundamentalism has been pandered to for way too fucking long and bigoted morons like you should be shunned rather than celebrated and pandered to.

The slide down the slippery slope accelerates at breakneck speed. What awaits us at the bottom isn't gay marriage alone -- which is merely a way station -- but a sexual totalitarian state (replete with Diversity Gestapo) in which dissent from the gay agenda will be ruthlessly suppressed.

1) Slippery slope is a logical fallacy
2) Godwin
3) You assholes are the ones that want a sexual gestapo. You want to be able to control people's sex lives and tell them who they can and cannot sleep with. As the old saying goes, those that compare everyone to Nazis tend to be more in line with them

Conscience and intimidation aside, gay matrimony will turn marriage into a free-form institution. If two men or two women can tie the knot in California, why not two women and two men, or a woman and her brother, or a man and a chicken, or Al Gore and the ozone layer?

Yeah, yeah, I'm aware that fundies can't grasp the concept of consenting adults.

By divorcing marriage from the potential for procreation

This fits sterile couples and old people too. Are we going to deny them their marriages too? What about people who choose not to have kids or who choose to adopt? Furthermore, lesbians CAN reproduce as can gay men if they use a surrogate mother. Using reproduction as a criterion for marriage is just plain retarded.

by telling a husband and wife who are struggling to raise a family that in the eyes of society they have exactly the same standing as those who a few short years ago were called degenerates, we will end up destroying an institution that predates political correctness, human rights commissions, the California Supreme Court and government itself.

Yeah you will, you'll deal a severe blow to open homophobia. It might even go the way of racism and become a taboo. I don't mind that getting destroyed.

10/22/2010 5:59:28 AM

nutbunny

"sexual totalitarian state (replete with Diversity Gestapo)"

I've got BDSM on the brain now

I wish Don Feder to be found in his lounge with his pants around his ankles, fish net stockings on his legs and a bag over his head.

It would be fitting

10/22/2010 6:12:01 AM

Doubting Thomas

the courts delivered a series of body-blows to marriage over the past four decades -- with no-fault divorce, abortion, the de facto legalization of pornography, and legitimizing cohabitation

And these are all done by heterosexuals, not gay people. And I don't see how abortion harms marriage.

when exactly did homosexuals become a division of humanity instead of a sorry collection of individuals

Since always, but people like you just fail to recognize it.

hat awaits us at the bottom isn't gay marriage alone -- which is merely a way station -- but a sexual totalitarian state (replete with Diversity Gestapo) in which dissent from the gay agenda will be ruthlessly suppressed.

Oh you mean the way Christians are trying to regulate marriage?

By divorcing marriage from the potential for procreation ... we will end up destroying an institution

Oh so, couples who are infertile or couples who don't want kids should have their marriages dissolved then?

10/22/2010 6:39:48 AM

JohnTheAtheist

Well at least he is an eloquent douchebag.

The only body blows the courts have delivered is to bigotry.

10/22/2010 6:42:00 AM

Anon-e-moose

"After the courts delivered a series of body-blows to marriage over the past four decades -- with no-fault divorce, abortion, the de facto legalization of pornography, and legitimizing cohabitation -- the justices thought: Oh, what the h_ll, what harm can there possibly be in opening the honorable estate to members of the North American Man/Boy Love Association"

Non-sequiturs for Jebus, much? There's light-years of difference between the likes of Roe vs. Wade (and of course more recently Kitzmiller vs. Dover, and Prop. 8 being overturned), and NAMBLA. Speaking of which...

Why hasn't your own GOP done everything in their power - especially during Repubican administrations - to completely eliminate that nest of paedo vipers, with all the political, legal, 'moral', and 'Christian' muscle at their disposal, hmmmmm?!

Mayhaps because of this:

http://mccannexposure.wordpress.com/2010/02/16/republican-list-of-paedophiles-shocking/

'Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.'

'Republican Committeeman John R. Curtain was charged with molesting a teenage boy and unlawful sexual contact with a minor.'

'Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.'

'Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.'

'Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.'

'Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.'

'Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.'

'Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.'

'Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.'

NAMBLA still allowed to exist (especially during Repubican administrations). The above. You do the maths, Don. The words 'Pot and Kettle' sound familiar?

Besides, if your so-called 'God' thinks our laws are wrong, he knows what to do: contest them.

Ah, but he can't if he doesn't exist, eh? Aye, there's the rub...

...oh, and 'All Gays are Paedophiles' much, Don?:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AllGaysArePedophiles

10/22/2010 6:59:02 AM

Seeker in the Dark

Sane people think of homosexuality as a normal sexual orientation that some people are born with.
Fundies think of homosexuality, and come up with the most twisted sexual fantasies.

Who's the pervert here, Don?

10/22/2010 7:00:56 AM

Zeus Almighty

I couldn't read all of that festering pile of rat turds, but from what I could the message I got was loud and clear: DON FEDER NEEDS MEDS! BAD!

Along with some good drugs you also need to get your ears out of your pastor's ass and try to gain at least a passing acquaintance with reality. I think you'd find it's actually a pretty cool way to live life.
Otherwise I fear I'm going to be reading the name Don Feder in connection with a mass shooting at some ACLU office/public school/"lilbrul" church/government office in the near future.

10/22/2010 7:13:55 AM

Canadia

Okay, I'll pardon your hate-filled rhetoric, now the only thing that's left is a gross misunderstanding of consent. Consent is what separates homosexual relationships from bestiality, as well as marriage to non-living things, though I don't really see the harm in that one either because...non-living things. On another note, I could see polygamist relationships and incestuous relationships, if it's consenting adults.

Onto marriage, then? okay, fertility is not a required part of straight marriage and has nothing to do with the convention of marriage today. Love is what constitutes a family, not a sex act, which is also not practiced by all homosexuals I might very well add. And finally, nice appeal to tradition, has it ever occurred to you that something old isn't necessarily correct or the way things should be done or handled?

10/22/2010 7:20:24 AM

Brendan Rizzo

After the courts delivered a series of body-blows to marriage over the past four decades -- with no-fault divorce,
Which Christians use more than atheists.
abortion,
Again, which Christians use more than atheists.
the de facto legalization of pornography, and legitimizing cohabitation --
What's so bad about cohabitation, exactly? I never understood that even when I considered myself a Christian.

snip...

Conscience and intimidation aside, gay matrimony will turn marriage into a free-form institution. If two men or two women can tie the knot in California, why not two women and two men, or a woman and her brother, or a man and a chicken, or Al Gore and the ozone layer?

Absurd, you may say. No more so than the idea of same-sex marriage 20 years ago.


No, it is Graham's number times more absurd than that, if not infinitely so. And I LMAO'd at the earlier claim of a "Diversity Gestapo."

10/22/2010 8:04:52 AM

Brendan Rizzo

Oops, forgot to mention this...

Pardon my hate-filled rhetoric, but when exactly did homosexuals become a division of humanity instead of a sorry collection of individuals (connected only by their carnal appetites) caught up in a perverted lifestyle?

When it was discovered that they cannot change their sexual orientation even if they wanted to (and many who grow up fundie do.)

And Al Gore/Ozone Layer is now my OTP. Thank you.

10/22/2010 8:11:55 AM

nazani14

I agree, let's reserve marriage (and the attendant financial benefits) strictly for those who can procreate. everyone must get a fertility test before marriage, and if you fail, you can get a civil union, but you can't get married. I'm pretty sure old or infertile people screwing is an abomination to the Lord. If you don't produce any offspring within 3 years, your marriage should be dissolved.

10/22/2010 8:14:14 AM

TGRwulf

I'm gonna call poe, only because he actually ADMITS that he's making a slippery slope.

10/22/2010 8:26:01 AM

Hive

Fuck off, Don.

10/22/2010 8:26:55 AM

spam hammich

Hate filled and ugly.

10/22/2010 8:30:35 AM
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